So if the rake is the deciding factor I can't see too many areas where it'll be safe standing. It'll just be the lower stand areas.Found it. It’s in here. ThanksNick "Trevor" Sharp .
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And possibly only the single tier stand too. It’s the only one ever mentioned in discussions. So yeah, 7,200 possible standing tickets in the future and no upping of the capacity. Safety is the prime concern I suppose.
But Dortmund has mainly normal terracing, not safe standing:
Dortmund only has traditional terracing for the bottom portion of the wall, the higher sections have rail seats (you can see in this picture if you look above the entrances) to keep from them crushing the lower terraces. For European games, seats are bolted into the lower terrace section reducing capacity there while the upper sections remains 1:1.
This picture shows it better:
I think it was actually just under 1800 only in the lower section of the single tier stand.
Imagine that whole south stand being safe standing. It would become one the best stadiums in the world and the noise from it would be immense!
Also does anyone know if the stadium is being built with the opportunity to increase from the 61,000 it will originally have? I doubt it is, just thought I'd see if anyone had anymore knowledge on the matter? (Personally think we are capable of filling 65,000-70,000 consistently and is what we should have aimed for
61,559 will be the capacity mate. There was a feeling that if rail-seating is allowed then this would increase the capacity by a few thousand, however as someone posted in here a couple of posts back following a THST meeting that this will not increase capacity as the ratio will be 1:1.
Personally I think +60k is perfect, we should sell out all PL games but no way would we for the Kangaroo Cup and may be even early rounds of the FA Cup if we are drawn against Dagenham & Redbridge for example. If we were to end up competing back in Europa League then that too would only attract crowds of 20-25k. No one wants to eat in an empty restaurant, much better to create a sense of demand.
I aactually like eating in an empty restaurant. It's quiet so you can have a conversation, you dont have to worry about other guests' obnoxiousness ruining your meal out, the servers aren't rushed so you get excellent service, and the kitchen isn't in the weeds so your food is prepared at their best.
But I agree with your point, 61,000 is a good level. I don't even know how important it would be in the future to add on. Television and sponsorship now greatly outstrip matchday income, much better to have the atmosphere of a regularly full ground than one that fills just for the big games.
Completely agree, and I think that a stadium that's 'too big' can have a doubly negative effect on drumming up demand for tickets:
Unless it's one of the really high profile games, you can look at Wembley this year and pretty much gamble that you'd be able to pick a ticket up via general sale a couple of days before any match. That'll inevitably bleed into the initial demand for tickets because people know they don't have to bite the club's hand off ASAP to get in.
Considering we filled 73,000-odd seats against Bournemouth without slashing our ticket prices West-Ham-style, I'd say that bodes well that 61,000 seats will be filled for everything barring dull cup and European games. Probably reflects pretty poorly on the Woolwich fanbase that they're consistently failing to do just that.
Bournemouth sales were probably also helped a bit by coming off such a shit long international break. If the general Spurs supporter is any reflection of TFC, we were ravenous for a Spurs match.Completely agree, and I think that a stadium that's 'too big' can have a doubly negative effect on drumming up demand for tickets:
Unless it's one of the really high profile games, you can look at Wembley this year and pretty much gamble that you'd be able to pick a ticket up via general sale a couple of days before any match. That'll inevitably bleed into the initial demand for tickets because people know they don't have to bite the club's hand off ASAP to get in.
Considering we filled 73,000-odd seats against Bournemouth without slashing our ticket prices West-Ham-style, I'd say that bodes well that 61,000 seats will be filled for everything barring dull cup and European games. Probably reflects pretty poorly on the Woolwich fanbase that they're consistently failing to do just that.
Not sure if anyone's posted this but when it comes to statistics...
We will be on the way to beating Woolwich's record of most games played at Wembley:
Which clubs have played the most games at Wembley Stadium? Find out here!
https://talksport.com/football/whic...embley-stadium-find-out-here-150409142695?p=1
And for the bonus I'd guess Kane will be on the way to beating Tony Adams' individual record: Adams' record can never be beaten
We will be on the way to beating Woolwich's record of most games played at Wembley:
Which clubs have played the most games at Wembley Stadium? Find out here!
https://talksport.com/football/whic...embley-stadium-find-out-here-150409142695?p=1
And for the bonus I'd guess Kane will be on the way to beating Tony Adams' individual record: Adams' record can never be beaten
I also like eating in an empty restaurant.Nothing as empowering as be able to lick the plate and not having to worry what other customers think of you..
All the cranes are idle and facing the same direction. I'm guessing they are hunkering down for the coming storm.
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Completely agree, and I think that a stadium that's 'too big' can have a doubly negative effect on drumming up demand for tickets:
Unless it's one of the really high profile games, you can look at Wembley this year and pretty much gamble that you'd be able to pick a ticket up via general sale a couple of days before any match. That'll inevitably bleed into the initial demand for tickets because people know they don't have to bite the club's hand off ASAP to get in.
Considering we filled 73,000-odd seats against Bournemouth without slashing our ticket prices West-Ham-style, I'd say that bodes well that 61,000 seats will be filled for everything barring dull cup and European games. Probably reflects pretty poorly on the Woolwich fanbase that they're consistently failing to do just that.
61,000 is about right for us. Real Madrid are only averaging 65k this season. We are doing 70k so far at Wembley.
Any bigger and the atmosphere will really suffer. Best to keep it full and not dilute the hardcore supporters.
As for not selling out early cup games. Who cares.