Why just season ticket holders?
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Why just season ticket holders?
And this goes back to what a lot of people knew last year. The site was running well behind schedule.
Companies I work with were running behind approx 3months.
And others on site were too.
They knew there was no way they could complete by August, which shifted, and then September seemed unrealistic to them. They finished December in the end.
Now with hindsight it’s clear that the proper reporting procedures weren’t really in place or this critical Safety Systems issue would have come to light much sooner.
I don’t believe in a big conspiracy theory. But I’m not buying a 7month+ delay came from nowhere within just a few days.
Someone even said that we were having electrical contractors walk off site as it was so badly organised and that the build would run well into this year and probably incur extra costs of over £250 to hit the billion mark.
They were laughed at and insulted of course.
But yet here we are almost expecting 2019/2020 to be a more realistic goal.
Because they paid upfront for the new place
Exactly that, they backed the club in the belief the new ground would be opened, the ST Holders should have probably got a better deal on Wembley tickets and deserve some recognition for being mucked about at renewal for next season,not charging booking fees this season is not really a favour in fairness.
I just want all this safety system signed off - it's worrying
If it's signed off but we can't make our first appearance until the first home game of the new season so be it
If it's signed off but we can't make our first appearance until the first home game of the new season so be it
BangkokSpud
I don't agree with
paddy spur
(sorry Pads) in that Levy KNEW it wouldn't be completed in September.I have, however been thinking that if it was only the fire safety systems, why has it taken so long to fix ?
I get that they scaled back on the work/overtime etc. But 6-7 months seems an excessive amount of time to fix, supposedly, one problem.
I say this from a position of complete ignorance of the build.
Didn’t they have to rip the whole lot out and reinstall? Dunno, just what I thought was going on.
I don't agree with
I have, however been thinking that if it was only the fire safety systems, why has it taken so long to fix ?
I get that they scaled back on the work/overtime etc. But 6-7 months seems an excessive amount of time to fix, supposedly, one problem.
I say this from a position of complete ignorance of the build.
That, and wiring installed when the stadium is a shell is a lot more difficult to install when it isn't a shell
That makes sense.
But that then opens up another question/point.
Either the contractors lied to Levy abut how long this would take. As in the opening dates have kept being put back.
Or
Levy has lied to the supporters about how long it would take.
If, for example, the contractors said it would take 5-6 months to put right, why was that not announced at the time.
If, on the other hand, the contractors said 2-3 months, why scale back on the other works/overtime.
As some have said the Grenfell fire may made the certificates harder to get, then surely the club would have known this through some source or other (contractors, council) so they should of been going all out to finish other works so that everything was ready to go.
"A very, very disappointing week" ... that's pretty much all I was told last night.
I make no apologies for supporting Spurs and by extension DL our chairman. Having followed our club since the mid-sixties I can say with absolute certainty that we've never been as close to the 'elite' group as we are right now. Has it all been smooth sailing? No of course not, the stadium delays are a feckin' pain but get past that and you will realise that soon we will have the best stadium in the EPL and probably in Europe, is that not worth the wait?
Spurs fans in the main have never acted 'entitled' despite being the first English club to win a European Trophy the first club to win The Double, we have always seen ourselves as the over achiever ... just because that's about to change, and we are about to join that elite band on level terms, doesn't mean we should turn into AFTV Gooners, RAWK tossers, or feckin' Chavs ... we have earned everything we've got, we can take pride in that, to suddenly become a bunch of whinging, entitled, me,me,me pricks (and obviously I'm generalizing) is very tough to read day after day.
Just stop complaining, you may be to young to understand, but these are the glory years, we haven't had it so good since 1961, if you'd had to watch the football we played in the nineties some of you would have committed Hari Kari by now.
So try and be happy, the stadium will come, CL is still with us, football life is good so enjoy it while we can ... if you keep on moaning about the setup you just might get your wish, let's sell out to a Sugar, a GSB or a Kroenke then see how much you'd like them apples.
I make no apologies for supporting Spurs and by extension DL our chairman. Having followed our club since the mid-sixties I can say with absolute certainty that we've never been as close to the 'elite' group as we are right now. Has it all been smooth sailing? No of course not, the stadium delays are a feckin' pain but get past that and you will realise that soon we will have the best stadium in the EPL and probably in Europe, is that not worth the wait?
Spurs fans in the main have never acted 'entitled' despite being the first English club to win a European Trophy the first club to win The Double, we have always seen ourselves as the over achiever ... just because that's about to change, and we are about to join that elite band on level terms, doesn't mean we should turn into AFTV Gooners, RAWK tossers, or feckin' Chavs ... we have earned everything we've got, we can take pride in that, to suddenly become a bunch of whinging, entitled, me,me,me pricks (and obviously I'm generalizing) is very tough to read day after day.
Just stop complaining, you may be to young to understand, but these are the glory years, we haven't had it so good since 1961, if you'd had to watch the football we played in the nineties some of you would have committed Hari Kari by now.
So try and be happy, the stadium will come, CL is still with us, football life is good so enjoy it while we can ... if you keep on moaning about the setup you just might get your wish, let's sell out to a Sugar, a GSB or a Kroenke then see how much you'd like them apples.
So, I went to see if I could recreate the photo of the stadium reflected in a puddle, the weather was bad enough but couldn't find a puddle big enough! Went to the shop and got the shirts book, also some baby bits for my great nephew, who is due to make an appearance in May. Put it this way, there is no way he is going to be anything but a Spurs supporter! The chips were a huge disappointment though - I think they have changed owners 
With hindsight (which is a wonderful thing), it would have been better to commit to two seasons at Wembley from the start. I'm still of the opinion that I would rather be in this season, even if it's only for the last game.
With hindsight (which is a wonderful thing), it would have been better to commit to two seasons at Wembley from the start. I'm still of the opinion that I would rather be in this season, even if it's only for the last game.
That is an extreme reaction. Suggests moving in this season is definitely out of the question, but could it be even worse and the problem is so bad that it may even take all summer or longer to resolve?
"Very very disappointing week"
ochfacepalm:
Is it just me, or Is anyone else warming to the idea of starting next season there???
Clean slate, first game at the new WHL in August (when it should be)
Moving there for the tail end of this season will do one of two things... either we take a while to adjust, have mixed early results, and fall away at the last... OR do well, win every game, and christen the new place by lifting the Premier league trophy there...
Option 3 is somewhere in between!!
Clean slate, first game at the new WHL in August (when it should be)
Moving there for the tail end of this season will do one of two things... either we take a while to adjust, have mixed early results, and fall away at the last... OR do well, win every game, and christen the new place by lifting the Premier league trophy there...
Option 3 is somewhere in between!!
The problem is that this is a complex project and I doubt we'll ever know who is to blame or exactly how it should be apportioned. There are definite things which make the club look bad, such as not giving more updates and detail about the delay, but there is an alternate scenario where the club was completely transparent about everything, feeding back directly what Mace has to say, people venting at one another, blaming contractors which would make the whole saga look like a soap opera (which it probably is).
That said I think it would be nice to have more informative regular updates and it seems to me that we only get those when the club have to refund season tickets, so they're borne of necessity rather than a meaningful effort to give a true update of where we're at. Whatever the club say though it really boils down to the fact we all want to know when the ground will open with absolute clarity and we're still not there.
While it is annoying to be out of our home ground and Wembley is not ideal I think we have to see this as a first world problem, the ground is built and the project needs a defined finish date. The fact is we know that stadium is there and we're going to be there soon.
A couple of seasons is not a lot of time in the space of following a club for decades and this new ground is the legacy. The timings have fucked up but the end product still looks like it's worth the wait. Be annoyed and disappointed, that's fair, but right now there are a lot more grounds to be optimistic, like our squad, there might be some set backs but there's plenty of positives to take from this season.
That said I think it would be nice to have more informative regular updates and it seems to me that we only get those when the club have to refund season tickets, so they're borne of necessity rather than a meaningful effort to give a true update of where we're at. Whatever the club say though it really boils down to the fact we all want to know when the ground will open with absolute clarity and we're still not there.
While it is annoying to be out of our home ground and Wembley is not ideal I think we have to see this as a first world problem, the ground is built and the project needs a defined finish date. The fact is we know that stadium is there and we're going to be there soon.
A couple of seasons is not a lot of time in the space of following a club for decades and this new ground is the legacy. The timings have fucked up but the end product still looks like it's worth the wait. Be annoyed and disappointed, that's fair, but right now there are a lot more grounds to be optimistic, like our squad, there might be some set backs but there's plenty of positives to take from this season.
I think I've solved the problem of the delays to NWHL.
I know fuck all about it.
Hope this helps.
I know fuck all about it.
Hope this helps.
Where did you get the chips from?So, I went to see if I could recreate the photo of the stadium reflected in a puddle, the weather was bad enough but couldn't find a puddle big enough! Went to the shop and got the shirts book, also some baby bits for my great nephew, who is due to make an appearance in May. Put it this way, there is no way he is going to be anything but a Spurs supporter! The chips were a huge disappointment though - I think they have changed owners
With hindsight (which is a wonderful thing), it would have been better to commit to two seasons at Wembley from the start. I'm still of the opinion that I would rather be in this season, even if it's only for the last game.
There would be schematic plans that would show all the cable runs and with riser cupboards at critical points allowing for access, it should not really be that taxing to remove wiring to replace or to fault find what has gone on and where.
I lean towards the safety systems being an excuse rather than the reason.
I think you know it all and you're not telling us.
I like conspiracy theories and now believe, based upon nothing, that you killed Princess Diana.
Mace are to blame as they are ultimately responsible. They should be made to pay, not in cash but maybe buy us a player or two in the summer to the value of the late fine eg 150m