Liverpool away - 11th Feb - 1730hrs kick off

[GG1882]

He did at Woolwich last year?

I think Poch is well aware of how to win (or rather not lose) at the big away grounds. I hope we set up in a similar manor on Saturday - defend in our own half, keep it compact, dare them to break us down and smash them up on the counter.

My only worry is if Hugo gets blinded by the floodlights reflecting off of Firminho's teeth.

I agree this would of been the right approach but I just did not see Poch giving Liverpool that kind of respect and I expected a live by the sword die by the sword approach.

Unfortunately it did not work and we will hopefully learn from this. Onwards and upwards now, plenty of winnable games in the coming months. Let's secure top 4 and hopefully a bit of silverware.

 

[Guido 🇺🇦]

First thing that sprung to mind when this happened on Sat was when Walker told Chadli to go under the wall (can't recall who it was against), he did and we scored. It is very rare to see a free kick taker do that, I actually can't recall another, though I'm sure there are some floating about on youtube.

2nd thought that went through my head was do the dippers have a mole at Spurs? It was Walker again talking to the free kick taker. So, Dippers deploy Cuntinho to kneel down behind a wall, which has never been seen before to prevent a free kick only ever been seen once before by the team who originally did it.

 

[DeeGee]

We can debate all we like about the tactics on Saturday, but there's no setup that can survive playing shit. If we're pushing up like we did we can't give the ball away in central or deep areas with the pace of Mane on the counter, its suicide. Yet we did that consistently first half, both their goals came from it, the first one Wan I think gave it away, then Dier with a shocker for the second. If we don't make these basic errors its a different game.

Story of this season really, we make it easy for teams to score against us with stupid errors.
We have done it at Liverpool, Man U, city, WBA , Chelsea at home to Leicester not to mention CL, I could go on. The 3 games we lost you could say were because we gifted goals.
I think we have been our own worst enemy and haven't learnt a thing.
I would say to defender just get it upfield if you're under pressure early. Ride the storm out and then play the natural game.
Davies was the target when we played Boro ffs.
Maybe, with hindsight Wimmer in a back 3 would have been more sensible.
Or even Wimmer in a back 4.
Yet it seems that Poch prefers to play to right footed CBs rather than have Wimmer deputise for Vertonghen.
He played him away at Chelsea as a LB, and he did ok last year. So I take it we won't be seeing Davies at LB any more.

 

[Bazali]

We can debate all we like about the tactics on Saturday, but there's no setup that can survive playing shit. If we're pushing up like we did we can't give the ball away in central or deep areas with the pace of Mane on the counter, its suicide. Yet we did that consistently first half, both their goals came from it, the first one Wan I think gave it away, then Dier with a shocker for the second. If we don't make these basic errors its a different game.

Well said

Our worst performance of the season by both manager and team

Hopefully it's now out of our system!

When the fuck is Lamela back???

 

[Fattynomates]

Been sitting on this, wondering whether to bring it up or not. I went to Anfield on Saturday and was disgusted by some idiots standing behind me. I've heard some vile shit spouted at games in the past, home and away, but, what I witnessed at Anfield the other day really left a sour taste.
Anyone that was present would of seen the half time penalty taking comp that happened at half time. It all went off with the usual respect that you would expect from "normal" human beings. Unfortunately it all went shit when a few fuckin scumbags behind me decided to give the particepents shit as they were exiting the sidelines via the Anfield road stand.
Shouting out, "Scouse Spastic Cunts" to a group of mainly U 15s is in my world, sick. My stepson and I called out the offenders and got some shit throughout the second half for our troubles.
Anyway, too cut a long story short, I can't guarantee that these gobshites won't learn anything from their actions on Saturday, but, they have definatly got some physical reminders. Gutted to be associated with this scum, it's one thing having banter or out singing the opposition, but you don't start on the kids and adults under the Mencap umbrella.

Really don't expect that kind of behaviour from our fans, maybe they should just fuck off and join the scum bag spammers or chavs fans where there actions sound like they would Be more suited!

 

[Blanchflower]

First thing that sprung to mind when this happened on Sat was when Walker told Chadli to go under the wall (can't recall who it was against), he did and we scored. It is very rare to see a free kick taker do that, I actually can't recall another, though I'm sure there are some floating about on youtube.

2nd thought that went through my head was do the dippers have a mole at Spurs? It was Walker again talking to the free kick taker. So, Dippers deploy Cuntinho to kneel down behind a wall, which has never been seen before to prevent a free kick only ever been seen once before by the team who originally did it.

Didn't they poach some of our coaching or academy staff?

 

[Blanchflower]

In other news the Guardian are quoting Mane's agent as saying he didnt choose the scousers over us because of money.

Mauricio Pochettino insists Spurs’ challenge merits greater recognition

Okay m8. He went to a club that arent even in Europe let alone the CL and have finished below us 6 out of the last 7 seasons for the arts and culture.

Yeah that's a load of bollocks - his basic is £150k pw at Liverpool, even Kane and Lloris aren't on that after just signing new deals.

 

[Guido 🇺🇦]

Didn't they poach some of our coaching or academy staff?

Yep. Alex Inglethorpe but in fairness that was about 4yrs ago now.

 

[mouse]

Didn't they poach some of our coaching or academy staff?

According to the dippers, all our scouts do is tail theirs around Europe gazumping them on deals.

Nothing to do with us recently sharing a director of football and both being in the market for the same level of players.

 

[mouse]

Not so much I told you so, as I actually thought we could win this game without parking the bus.

I actually completely agree with your view on the game. My main gripe is we did not show much willingness to try something different when things were going completely wrong, Wanyama could not handle the high pressure and lost the ball more often than not, Winks may have been a good sub to make at half time. We cant play direct when our passing game is not working because we don't have the personnel and Poch does not seem to have the faith in Janssen just yet, however I do feel we need to mix up the playing out from the back with the odd aimed ball, doesn't have to be a hoof ball. Liverpool knew we were going short to the defenders every time and it played into their hands in my opinion.

The pundits where slaughtering Guardiola for the same thing earlier in the season. I can understand the manager's reluctance though. A lofted ball is high risk in terms of losing possession and we've all seen it when a team continuously launch the ball from danger just to watch it drop straight back to the opposition and the pressure is back on again.

Normally ball retention in the middle is one of our strengths, i just think Dembele, Wanyama, Dier, Eriksen..... they all just had a very bad day... Alli was non existent in possession. Saying that it is scary how easily we can be flustered by a team that is prepared to play us at our own game.

Anyway hindsight is a wonderful thing, I expect we will come back strong. We are still a brilliant side, despite what Sky want everyone to believe. A couple bad results for anyone in the top 6 and you get the "they'll never win anything bla bla"

Almost schizophrenic levels of hypocrisy. Apparently before the game we were the only real contenders for catching up with Chelsea despite there only being 4 points between 7th place and 2nd.