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Phomesy said:
Imagine having spent hours of your time cunting off Emerson Royal - probably because you're the type of cunt who booed him - only to find the Club rejecting 30 million Saudi bids and Ange raving about him.

I'd simply never post on a forum again.
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Royal is a weird case. Let's face it, at some point he was shockingly poor. Like ... really-really-really poor. Clueless in defense, heavy touch, poor passing. It felt like a very poor deal at the time and I too would have been happy if we cashed in on him.

While this season, he has proven his value in multiple positions.
And when I saw rumors linking him to Saudi transfer, my first reaction was also that "get your dirty hands off our player!".

So for me he has really turned his Spurs career around and I see him as valuable member of our squad.
 
Ed Vanderlay said:
Yes , neither are good enough for the Poch team that challenged in the league and reached a CL final . Edwards had attitude issues as evidenced in his loans , only grew up at Lisbon well after Poch left Spurs . KWP is not at the level needed then or now in my opinion
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We'll never really know how good or useful KWP could have been due to how poorly his development was handled.

Excellent at youth level, was fine defensively but excellent going forward with great dribbling ability. But he didn't get a run of playing competitive mens football until he was 22 years old. Pure negligence.

He got a MOTM on his league debut for us in 2017/18, first game of the season. Then never started another game for us until the final game of the same season, where he went and got 2 assists. He then had to wait another 7 months to get his next league start where he went and got 3 asissts in one game before once again getting dropped for 10 games.

Treated like absolute shit.
 
Can anyone explain to me, why should we be exited about Nusa?

I am not trying to say like I would have some massive insight to him or know more than our scouts or anything. But based on the quick glance, I am more afraid then excited of buying him for 30 million, and here are my reasons -

- he is 19 in one month time, yet he has minimal experience in senior football;
- that is despite playing in Norway and Belgium; let's not forget that Belgium is where Jan and Toby are among best CBs, despite their "best before" passed for our level already 3+ years ago
- last "next gigastar" that the league produced was de Ketelaar who we also were linked with... he had LOT MORE track record for Club Brugge when he moved to AC Milan for almost 40 million EUR. He has done nothing in Serie A since then
- but most importantly, I watched what was supposed to be his highlight reel (which should be impressive by definition), but I saw 0 attributes that impressed me; no real speed, no real strength, questionable close control, questionable dribbling ability. Most of the things included in the reel were goals because of all the time and room being given him, which he would never find in EPL. What are the attributes that would help him to be a success for us?
- and 30 million EUR is already serious amount of money. It feels like a total punt on a player that might develop good; basically paying hefty fee for only some promise but nothing tangible. U-dog and Sarr already had played in top5 leagues, were highly regarded, yet cost 30 mil combined...

I am by no means saying that he is shit or that he would surely flop, if we would sign him. If we do, I cross my fingers and hope he will be a world-class superstar in the making. I just presented my opinion and observations. If anyone can explain what would justify paying 30 mil for him, I am honestly interested in hearing that view :) .
 
Ed Vanderlay said:
They clearly were not good enough , nobody has gone on to do anything . Winks is doing well in the Championship . I don’t want to hold back youth , but I don’t want to play them to the detriment of the team .
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If they weren't good enough they should have gone out on loan, that was the issue - he liked to keep players in the academy instead of giving them much needed experience away from the club.
 
Ed Vanderlay said:
Yes , neither are good enough for the Poch team that challenged in the league and reached a CL final . Edwards had attitude issues as evidenced in his loans , only grew up at Lisbon well after Poch left Spurs . KWP is not at the level needed then or now in my opinion
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I am not faulting Poch to find another Kane ffs. That would be very unreasonable expectation.

I am talking about even squad players.
We will never know for sure, cause we cannot see the alternative universe. But it is very hard for me to believe that there was 5 year period when academy product was so shit that we even got 0 squad players out of it.

Add mentioned Madueke to the list as well maybe, yea.
Once KWP escaped this prison cell, he established himself as a starter for EPL side. I am not convinced that he couldn't have made it to 2nd choice fullback for us, and outplay nutcase that was Aurier for example.
 
TheSpurEst said:
Can anyone explain to me, why should we be exited about Nusa?

I am not trying to say like I would have some massive insight to him or know more than our scouts or anything. But based on the quick glance, I am more afraid then excited of buying him for 30 million, and here are my reasons -

- he is 19 in one month time, yet he has minimal experience in senior football;
- that is despite playing in Norway and Belgium; let's not forget that Belgium is where Jan and Toby are among best CBs, despite their "best before" passed for our level already 3+ years ago
- last "next gigastar" that the league produced was de Ketelaar who we also were linked with... he had LOT MORE track record for Club Brugge when he moved to AC Milan for almost 40 million EUR. He has done nothing in Serie A since then
- but most importantly, I watched what was supposed to be his highlight reel (which should be impressive by definition), but I saw 0 attributes that impressed me; no real speed, no real strength, questionable close control, questionable dribbling ability. Most of the things included in the reel were goals because of all the time and room being given him, which he would never find in EPL. What are the attributes that would help him to be a success for us?
- and 30 million EUR is already serious amount of money. It feels like a total punt on a player that might develop good; basically paying hefty fee for only some promise but nothing tangible. U-dog and Sarr already had played in top5 leagues, were highly regarded, yet cost 30 mil combined...

I am by no means saying that he is shit or that he would surely flop, if we would sign him. If we do, I cross my fingers and hope he will be a world-class superstar in the making. I just presented my opinion and observations. If anyone can explain what would justify paying 30 mil for him, I am honestly interested in hearing that view :) .
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I do share you concerns. We certainly need a world breaker 1v1 player. The issue is they are so highly prized everyone is on them. So we are taking a bit of a flyer on Nusa...is really the next World star from what I have seen who knows. But I get why we are taking the risk.
 
Shadydan said:
If they weren't good enough they should have gone out on loan, that was the issue - he liked to keep players in the academy instead of giving them much needed experience away from the club.
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Like Onomah you mean , or Parrot , Scarlett etc . Might be a bit early to write off Scarlett I think

Worked very well for Harry admittedly
 
TheSpurEst said:
Can anyone explain to me, why should we be exited about Nusa?

I am not trying to say like I would have some massive insight to him or know more than our scouts or anything. But based on the quick glance, I am more afraid then excited of buying him for 30 million, and here are my reasons -

- he is 19 in one month time, yet he has minimal experience in senior football;
- that is despite playing in Norway and Belgium; let's not forget that Belgium is where Jan and Toby are among best CBs, despite their "best before" passed for our level already 3+ years ago
- last "next gigastar" that the league produced was de Ketelaar who we also were linked with... he had LOT MORE track record for Club Brugge when he moved to AC Milan for almost 40 million EUR. He has done nothing in Serie A since then
- but most importantly, I watched what was supposed to be his highlight reel (which should be impressive by definition), but I saw 0 attributes that impressed me; no real speed, no real strength, questionable close control, questionable dribbling ability. Most of the things included in the reel were goals because of all the time and room being given him, which he would never find in EPL. What are the attributes that would help him to be a success for us?
- and 30 million EUR is already serious amount of money. It feels like a total punt on a player that might develop good; basically paying hefty fee for only some promise but nothing tangible. U-dog and Sarr already had played in top5 leagues, were highly regarded, yet cost 30 mil combined...

I am by no means saying that he is shit or that he would surely flop, if we would sign him. If we do, I cross my fingers and hope he will be a world-class superstar in the making. I just presented my opinion and observations. If anyone can explain what would justify paying 30 mil for him, I am honestly interested in hearing that view :) .
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People have the right to be excited over whoever they want.

We shouldn't need to convince you.
 
Richard Arlison said:
What a player. But he went to AC Milan from Fiorentina. Out of our league at the time. 100% Spurs player tho
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Our team (Paratici etc) nowadays, might have picked him up at the point of going to Fiorentina, along with Battigol…
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Ed Vanderlay said:
Like Onomah you mean , or Parrot , Scarlett etc . Might be a bit early to write off Scarlett I think

Worked very well for Harry admittedly
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What's the etc..lol I can give you a list of a million players who went out on loan and improved, your exceptions don't prove anything and besides Onomah went on loan 2 years too late, Parrot is doing well and he's still only 21?? and yeah way too early to write off Scarlett.
 
Shadydan said:
What's the etc..lol I can give you a list of a million players who went out on loan and improved, your exceptions don't prove anything and besides Onomah went on loan 2 years too late, Parrot is doing well and he's still only 21?? and yeah way too early to write off Scarlett.
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I do not believe Parrot will make it with us , hope I’m wrong as age wise would be nice timing to follow Son . I just can’t see it though
 
TheSpurEst said:
Can anyone explain to me, why should we be exited about Nusa?

I am not trying to say like I would have some massive insight to him or know more than our scouts or anything. But based on the quick glance, I am more afraid then excited of buying him for 30 million, and here are my reasons -

- he is 19 in one month time, yet he has minimal experience in senior football;
- that is despite playing in Norway and Belgium; let's not forget that Belgium is where Jan and Toby are among best CBs, despite their "best before" passed for our level already 3+ years ago
- last "next gigastar" that the league produced was de Ketelaar who we also were linked with... he had LOT MORE track record for Club Brugge when he moved to AC Milan for almost 40 million EUR. He has done nothing in Serie A since then
- but most importantly, I watched what was supposed to be his highlight reel (which should be impressive by definition), but I saw 0 attributes that impressed me; no real speed, no real strength, questionable close control, questionable dribbling ability. Most of the things included in the reel were goals because of all the time and room being given him, which he would never find in EPL. What are the attributes that would help him to be a success for us?
- and 30 million EUR is already serious amount of money. It feels like a total punt on a player that might develop good; basically paying hefty fee for only some promise but nothing tangible. U-dog and Sarr already had played in top5 leagues, were highly regarded, yet cost 30 mil combined...

I am by no means saying that he is shit or that he would surely flop, if we would sign him. If we do, I cross my fingers and hope he will be a world-class superstar in the making. I just presented my opinion and observations. If anyone can explain what would justify paying 30 mil for him, I am honestly interested in hearing that view :) .
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Nobody should be over or under reacting to the HLs we have seen.

Get excited by us picking up a young player that most clubs in Europe want and take that for your comfort.

Here is what I see in the HLs:

Able to get to the byline and cross or cut into the middle and shoot. Already done both at International level against a NT like Georgia for example.

Has what we'd call in basketball a quick first step. Even in the HLs you can see he can accelerate and change direction with the ball from a stand still to an elite level.

He can dribble in either direction and change direction at almost full speed. That can be harder to defend than pure speed.

Is he going to get strong enough for the prem. Is he going to be consistent enough to be a star in the toughest league in the world...Those are the gambles.
 
Ed Vanderlay said:
I do not believe Parrot will make it with us , hope I’m wrong as age wise would be nice timing to follow Son . I just can’t see it though
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That's fine, he has a better chance though if he has games under his belt.

And even if he doesn't make it with us we can sell him for value, not every player will make it but at least we are better off with players who have value on the market than not.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Nobody should be over or under reacting to the HLs we have seen.

Get excited by us picking up a young player that most clubs in Europe want and take that for your comfort.

Here is what I see in the HLs:

Able to get to the byline and cross or cut into the middle and shoot. Already done both at International level against a NT like Georgia for example.

Has what we'd call in basketball a quick first step. Even in the HLs you can see he can accelerate and change direction with the ball from a stand still to an elite level.

He can dribble in either direction and change direction at almost full speed. That can be harder to defend than pure speed.

Is he going to get strong enough for the prem. Is he going to be consistent enough to be a star in the toughest league in the world...Those are the gambles.
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Biggest take away from watching Nusa is just how excellent his footwork is when running at full speed

I honestly don't think I could name even 5 players off the top of my head who are as good 'at full speed' than Nusa is and he's 18 years old. You'll see that even the best 1 v 1 specialists tend to slow down slightly.

Ridiculous agility. His shift of weight is just stupid and how in control he is.

Scary talent and it's exactly why I think we dont get this one done sadly.
 
TheSpurEst said:
What the fuck is your problem.
I posted my worries and actively asked for others opinion, to understand different POV.

You don't need to convince me, but you also don't need to post garbage if you have nothing to say.
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Your worries stem from watching a highlight reel of an 18 year old and coming to the conclusion that he's.... Slow? 😂😂😂

Your post was pure fucking waffle mate. Paragraphs and paragraphs on nonsense. Unless your eyes can only see what absolutely no one else can.

Most of Europe think he's one of the best prospects in world football and he has a €30m fee for a reason.

If you can't see it but everyone else seemingly can. I imagine it's probably not you that's the expert on judging talent.
 
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