Yes, they probably are.
But you agree that most fans turn up regardless of their views on the owners?
At least that's a start.
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But you agree that most fans turn up regardless of their views on the owners?
At least that's a start.
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Don’t know, when you move a club from a football stadium into a giant athletics track half of them fuck off like West Ham but yeh mostly.
Although they still pull in over 20k more each week than they did at upton park.
Which kinda further proves my point that
BangkokSpud
is talking petulant nonsense when he claims a full house at WHL tomorrow somehow proves that everyone is on board with ENIC. It simply isn't the case.
Not really true though is it? It’s still just you and JT plus a couple of new members who are massively anti Levy or anti ENIC or anti the board. Anti something anyway. If you think you are at the forefront of some massive movement of the people, you may need to give yourself a slap.
Almost every single other member of this forum seems to be ok with what’s happening or I’m sure they’d be more vociferous in their complaints.
Is this our leaked New motto ENIC are going to put on our badge.
Patientia Enim Requiratur
She was hot on Spartacus, gods of the arena.
Kane was thrown out there too at one point. Hope it works out the same way
To dare is to balance the books
Kane had had a few tough loans though, but, yeah, I like you, would like to see more of him.
All our views are irrelevant in the end.
No Todd. This is exactly what most, if not all of us are arguing, and has always been the core of my argument.
I am under no illusion that it is only very few academy kids that are even worth a chance, and that even then a tiny fraction of those will prove ultimately good enough to be viable squad use, and an even smaller fraction will end up as first team regular material.
But all I’m arguing is that we make better use of that free (kind of) resource , that doesn’t have to be world beaters at all to be viable and have some use to us as a squad, because very few of our purchases are even close to that standard and that we apply some of the same standards and criteria to them as to purchases, who also have a very small chance of being “world beaters” and rarely turn out to be.
Here’s a great example. Why the fuck has Mourinho given 60 minutes in central midfield to a 21yo who was failing to get a game for one of Portugal bully teams, and given 0 minutes to Oliver Skipp,who has proven to be a very competent midfielder on his limited chances.
And you frequently say that our academy players don’t deserve more chance if they don’t “shine” when they are given chances, so do you think Gedson’s 7 touches in 60 minutes means he should be done now? Or do you think he’ll still get more chances than Skipp. Did Onomah ever have an appearance where he averaged a touch every ten minutes ?
It took Aurier a year to learn how to take throw ins, and largely was atrocious every time he got a start, getting sent off, giving away penalties, costing us goals, why was he not judged after two games like KWP? It's taken him 3 seasons - and finally getting a consistent run of games - to start looking like a viable option - and he'll still never be a world beater, why do we not make similar allowances for the very exceptional academy player?
All most of us are arguing is for a more logical and sensible approach. We are pissing away resources. We aren't a club blessed with the resources of most of our main rivals.
We spend 12-14 years in many cases teaching and preparing footballers, they get picked internationally, win major international tournaments, play well in pre season games against good quality opposition, get minutes off the bench, get the odd cup start, and if they have made that stage (which is rare) and don't shit the bed at any of the numerous stages, then they are ready for the next test. The next test would normally be to go on loan and get regular proper football, or to be given more game time with our first team.
But under Poch this absolutely crucial next stage of development was largely removed, so a bunch of the most promising kids our academy has produced were not playing proper football at the most vital stage of their development. They weren't even playing U23 football any more. They were just put on ice.
And where players like Rose were allowed to cunt Poch, Levy, the club and fans off ion the media and still get picked, all Edwards had to do was be in a bit of a teenage huff to be deemed a lost cause.
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Ha. Actually sounds pretty good. Luckily I know my latin.
prodest in gloria
Quality post, keep preaching to us believers.
Levy is a disgrace, your right he seems to treat the most important aspect of a football club, the team as an afterthought. Personally I think we should be demanding more and forcing enic to sell, not sure that's really possible but hey we should be trying to force his hand.. As you so perfectly put it, we pay insane prices but get mugged off by levy and his second rate squad players we don't need and heavily unbalanced squad..
But those of us with our eyes wide open know that leopards don't change their spots, and levy is the spottiest leopard ever seen
Most successful owners ever really ? Maybe they are , but that comment kind of made me go...WHAT
With the up most respect. I don't think this means what you think it means. You really are comparing apples and oranges in regards muscle injuries and ankle ligament damage. Now throw in a ruptured achilles tendons and long term prognosis starts looking a lot less secure. It kills me to say this but I am very concerned Kane will increasingly offer pretty much what Glen Murray does. Height decent finish but little mobility and less pace. I assume we think Parrot is both the long and mid term solution.
This is fantastic to know. Thank you for clarifying this point.
Thus spoke Zarathustra.
ENIC is making some disasterous decisions at the moment in the transfer market, instead of trying to push on they risk taking us back to midtable I feel.
Anyone would think there's something on their mind other than on field matters.
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