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RSpurs said:
Play hockey. It's like soccer with a weapon... team sport with very similar tactics and a few more. Supposed to be non-contact - like hell, you learn to use the stick so the umpires don't notice....
Seriously, try as many sports as you can. For me, to be a sport it has to be team sports, the rest are exercise or a hobby. Sure, i do them, but don't consider them sport!
I played them all, gave us rugby in early 20's, soccer in my 30's, cricket in my 40's and still going with hockey in my 50's and keeping up with the kids.
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Well I do Rowing in the Autumn and Hockey in Spring then rowing again in the summer. But football's easily my favourite sport, me and my friends play it at each available time. I even run the school indoor football team (its not an official sport, I take it from 8:15-9:30) its a good laugh. Its funny because whenever its House Football I also get into a huge argument with the teachers. Its the only way I ever get in trouble.

Besides with hockey I don't really want get a hockey ball or a hockey stick in the face.
 
I guess this all boils down to football being seen as a Sport of the under class, and a yobbish thing to do. Lots of schools seem to shun it in favour of other sports. Yet it's far and away the most popular sport in England. I can't imagine Welsh schools ever turning their nose up at Rugby in favour of less popular sports. It's no wonder England has a chronic lack of players and coaches. The FA needs to target schools, and teachers, and give them an incentive to teach football. It's crazy considering that even a league 2 footballer can earn a decent wage. So why aren't our schools giving kids the tools they need to go out and possibly get a well paid job.
 
Tucker said:
I guess this all boils down to football being seen as a Sport of the under class, and a yobbish thing to do. Lots of schools seem to shun it in favour of other sports. Yet it's far and away the most popular sport in England. I can't imagine Welsh schools ever turning their nose up at Rugby in favour of less popular sports. It's no wonder England has a chronic lack of players and coaches. The FA needs to target schools, and teachers, and give them an incentive to teach football. It's crazy considering that even a league 2 footballer can earn a decent wage. So why aren't our schools giving kids the tools they need to go out and possibly get a well paid job.
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This, when it comes to my school on Rugby matchdays (every Saturday) I'm always going mental about the football. When the school is swarming in people wearing tweed and an excess of 4x4s. One of my most memorable was after we beat Woolwich at the Emptyrates in the early kick off I just walked down to the pitches (everyone else had gone at half time when we were 2-0 down. So all the gooners, United and Chelsea plastics were all watching the rugby). So in a sea of tweed, I'm there with my Spurs shirt and I go and stand in front of the lads from my house and next door, they saw me and asked me "whats the score?" I said "3-2" they said "fuck off" I started singing 'oh when the Spurs' out load and lots of parents and teachers watched me with my hands out stretched.
 
Tucker said:
I guess this all boils down to football being seen as a Sport of the under class, and a yobbish thing to do. Lots of schools seem to shun it in favour of other sports. Yet it's far and away the most popular sport in England. I can't imagine Welsh schools ever turning their nose up at Rugby in favour of less popular sports. It's no wonder England has a chronic lack of players and coaches. The FA needs to target schools, and teachers, and give them an incentive to teach football. It's crazy considering that even a league 2 footballer can earn a decent wage. So why aren't our schools giving kids the tools they need to go out and possibly get a well paid job.
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This is a favourite idea of the socialists! Not in the slightest bit true. What you will find instead in some schools is a passion for another sport, or a desire to keep a sport going. For example, Eton kept racquets going for ages, nobody else played it, now getting more popular. Locally, we have one public school deeply into rugby, hockey and cricket, and the neighbours deeply into soccer, cricket and horse riding! It all tends to spring from the sports masters preferred sport.... And soccer is huge in all public schools, at least to watch.
Also, sport is a huge advertising vehicle for the schools. They attract customers by winning school trophies. To do that, they will specialise in a specific sport. Becomes a vicious circle.
As for non-public schools, I believe that nowadays you need to have a teacher willing to teach the sport, and with the rise in parental abuse of refs, there are damn few left - sorry, totally different argument, but hugely related to the lack of soccer in schools IMO.
 
RSpurs said:
This is a favourite idea of the socialists! Not in the slightest bit true. What you will find instead in some schools is a passion for another sport, or a desire to keep a sport going. For example, Eton kept racquets going for ages, nobody else played it, now getting more popular. Locally, we have one public school deeply into rugby, hockey and cricket, and the neighbours deeply into soccer, cricket and horse riding! It all tends to spring from the sports masters preferred sport.... And soccer is huge in all public schools, at least to watch.
Also, sport is a huge advertising vehicle for the schools. They attract customers by winning school trophies. To do that, they will specialise in a specific sport. Becomes a vicious circle.
As for non-public schools, I believe that nowadays you need to have a teacher willing to teach the sport, and with the rise in parental abuse of refs, there are damn few left - sorry, totally different argument, but hugely related to the lack of soccer in schools IMO.
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I don't know if you and I have the same meaning of the term public school? State schools, football (soccer) is large which is where I was educated from 5-13 but now I'm at a public school loads of the pupils and many of teachers often joke about how much football is shunned here.
 
We were punished for playing football instead of rugby or cricket on our lunch breaks at my school in the UK. Most people didn't play any sports unless it was in Games time slot. In Spain, we played football for an hour before school most days, an hour at lunch and an hour after school as well as in PE sometimes. I think that might be why they're so good at it. They just play the game a lot more than their British counterparts
 
Spanish Spur said:
We were punished for playing football instead of rugby or cricket on our lunch breaks at my school in the UK. Most people didn't play any sports unless it was in Games time slot. In Spain, we played football for an hour before school most days, an hour at lunch and an hour after school as well as in PE sometimes. I think that might be why they're so good at it. They just play the game a lot more than their British counterparts
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Well we play when we have free time, though a lot of our top tier of sportsmen at my school often have there coaches come down and shouting at us for having them play a football game.
 
Freudlyuchenko said:
I don't know if you and I have the same meaning of the term public school? State schools, football (soccer) is large which is where I was educated from 5-13 but now I'm at a public school loads of the pupils and many of teachers often joke about how much football is shunned here.
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Yes, we do. Public school educated myself - MIllfield - and sent my boys to public school, and have spent years taking them to regional sports events, speaking to other parents. Have also had public schools as clients. The schools don't give a shit about which sport they provide, as long as it helps to fill the school. It is the individual teachers who will hvae their own ideas. YOur teachers getting upset is because they don't want you picking up habits from soccer which they may believe upsets the way you play their sport, or getting injured. It will be them as individuals, though they may well have created the policy. When they leave and are replaced, if the new teacher happens to prefer another sport, the whole policy will change. Though it is likely the new one will like the same sport - schools like continuity. But it is not about soccer per se, it is just that soccer is more popular so that is what lots of the teachers who love an individual sport are all fighting against.
 
Spanish Spur said:
We were punished for playing football instead of rugby or cricket on our lunch breaks at my school in the UK. Most people didn't play any sports unless it was in Games time slot. In Spain, we played football for an hour before school most days, an hour at lunch and an hour after school as well as in PE sometimes. I think that might be why they're so good at it. They just play the game a lot more than their British counterparts
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We were punished for playing all sorts of sports - particularly bicycle polo on the 5-a-side football pitches, using hockey sticks and balls from bikes. Soccer on the hockey pitches or tennis courts also drove them mad :)
 
RSpurs said:
Yes, we do. Public school educated myself - MIllfield - and sent my boys to public school, and have spent years taking them to regional sports events, speaking to other parents. Have also had public schools as clients. The schools don't give a shit about which sport they provide, as long as it helps to fill the school. It is the individual teachers who will hvae their own ideas. YOur teachers getting upset is because they don't want you picking up habits from soccer which they may believe upsets the way you play their sport, or getting injured. It will be them as individuals, though they may well have created the policy. When they leave and are replaced, if the new teacher happens to prefer another sport, the whole policy will change. Though it is likely the new one will like the same sport - schools like continuity. But it is not about soccer per se, it is just that soccer is more popular so that is what lots of the teachers who love an individual sport are all fighting against.
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Oh yeah, well at Millfield you love every sport from my few times visiting as an away team. Good banter there when I last went two years ago at the first team rugby game between the two sets of support if I remember correctly.

"Millfield girls make more noise when they're fucking Bryanston boys. with a nick nack paddy whack give a dog a bone, why don't Millfield fuck off home"

Then one of your staff had a go at one of our coaches for our language whilst the Millfield lot on the otherside were calling us, I can't remember correctly but probably cunts.

Maybe its just Bryanston but the official line is very anti football, some guys a few years above for starting a petition which was signed by most of the guys on campus to get done as an official sport... they were 'asked to leave'
 
RSpurs said:
We were punished for playing all sorts of sports - particularly bicycle polo on the 5-a-side football pitches, using hockey sticks and balls from bikes. Soccer on the hockey pitches or tennis courts also drove them mad :)
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Its good to know things haven't changed since you were at school. hahaha
 
Freudlyuchenko said:
Oh yeah, well at Millfield you love every sport from my few times visiting as an away team. Good banter there when I last went two years ago at the first team rugby game between the two sets of support if I remember correctly.

"Millfield girls make more noise when they're fucking Bryanston boys. with a nick nack paddy whack give a dog a bone, why don't Millfield fuck off home"

Then one of your staff had a go at one of our coaches for our language whilst the Millfield lot on the otherside were calling us, I can't remember correctly but probably cunts.

Maybe its just Bryanston but the official line is very anti football, some guys a few years above for starting a petition which was signed by most of the guys on campus to get done as an official sport... they were 'asked to leave'
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haha, in my day Bryanstone were a big soccer school! These things go in cycles, all down to the teachers.
 
RSpurs said:
haha, in my day Bryanstone were a big soccer school! These things go in cycles, all down to the teachers.
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mmm, but at the moment our head as a lot of life left in her and I don't see the stance changing soon, despite my efforts as sports editor of the school paper and my subtle demands that we do football. I did manage to make the team for our one competitive football match last year, coldest day of the year at Milton Abbey. The head hockey coach of was the biggest role against football has left recently though now the only two obstacles are the two head rugby coaches. We're the only three in the school so we get along very well, although we have are arguments. FOr instance, they said it was the worst day in years the day Redknapp got fired. They were open to moving to Stratford because it would have been easier. They said AVB will be out by Christmas last September, I replied 'just you wait until we win at Old Trafford', they said 'oh if that happens that will change things'. After we won, I was all like "what did I tell you would happen, exactly what just happened".
 
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