Has anyone else had enough?

[Nutter-Naylor]

I don't really like football anymore.

Transfer windows, social media, 24/7 media coverage, the gentrification of the crowd, the ridiculous cost of attending and the even more ridiculous wages etc etc

But I love Tottenham. I always go into the new season with renewed hope even though I know deep in my heart it will peter out as always. Such a shame we couldn't take the final step last season.

For me football has always been about the whole day out and from that perspective I still enjoy it. Meeting old mates and making new ones. A few beers and a lot of laughs.

Been a fan for 51 years and still do 20+ games a season with a 5 hour minimum round trip to get there and home again.

If football is only about the winning for a particular individual it is probably not the right sport or right team for them.

 

[Deckard]

Sorry if I will get a bit waffly, but I am Italian ochbye:



Yes, I am Italian (actually, since a few years ago, I am British as well) and I have moved here almost 18 years ago (I had never thought it would have happened, but I couldn’t say no to some opportunity that came up in my life)



I am 52, I support Torino, and since the late 70s I have become also a Spurs supporter… I may expand on this on another thread about foreign supporters (Ossie, Hoddle, Steve Archibald, the 1982 Le Coq Sportif centenary kit, the colours, the instinct I have always had about this club, even from far in a time when it was so precious to watch an English game) … It started as “Ok, definitely my club in England are Spurs”… but soon became much more than that…Why Spurs? Why not Forest or Liverpool or other clubs?

Because to me football is about poetry, intensity and emotion.. it’s about passion and beauty in different forms… it’s about “US and them”… it’s where my tribal instinct goes (it certainly doesn’t want to go into politics, religion or other shit like that)… In Spurs I have always seen all this , as I have always seen this in Torino (although before moving to UK I had lost a bit of passion on that, and it’s a lot to do with modern football, but not just… however, this is not the thread to talk about that). (Nothing to do with the fact that both teams have an animal farm on the badge )



I don’t deny that one of the many reasons I accepted the proposals to move here was Spurs. I remember the first time I went to the Lane (the 0-2 defeat against Chelscum , when Mido got sent off)… I remember the heart thumping for the emotion… while I saw the stadium in reality fir the first time, when I got into the stands… For different reasons, I don’t go to more than 3-4 games every season, but every time I watch spurs (even on telly) I still got the heart thumping



The Bayern game was my first time at the new stadium, and I feel exactly that buzz, even more for the novelty (I must admit that when I saw the new Park Lane stand my jaw dropped… I have never seen anything with more intimidating potential



The game is shit these days, football is broken and there is a lot of gentrification and dilution of intensity … but I still love it , because I still connect with the way I feel it, to the point that I can almost ignore every modern part of it… The other thing that is happening is that I very rarely watch any other club playing (it has to be by chance while being in a pub)



I have often come to this forum to lurk, as there is an awful lot of good stuff. I love listening to the stories of people who have supported this club from much longer than me and much more closely ( I just name a few, sorry for all the others: Nutter-Naylor , Mrs Perryman , Guido 🇺🇦 )



For some reason, now that we are in this shit moment I feel even closer to this forum… It’s a way to feel closer to what we are even when I cannot go to the Lane, and maybe it’s a way to throw some of my positive energy into it



What happened last year, in particular losing the CL final , hasn’t killed my passion at all… It was very painful to lose it for a day or two , of course, but I have always felt very relaxed about that game: to me that was a gift, one of hundreds that I got from this manager and squad… I was always relaxed and I always am, even in this shit moment, for two reasons:

• I just know that we are (very slowly and with some very painful spell) heading into winning everything, and we will do in our style
• I have never expected to achieve what we have achieved in this generation… I have always seen this as a step forward… and quite a wonderful one!

How do I feel about Spurs now? I feel that whatever happens it’s time to bite the bullet and go through a couple of years of painful rebuild … This has happened in the past and we have always moved forward from that… I am not discussing here what manager I want to be at the helm or other things; there are other threads about that



But yes, generally speaking the football circus is pretty shit these days, and it will probably become worse)

COYS!!!

 

[Nutter-Naylor]

A tip.....

Avoid Twitter and FB. And TV pundits. I find football MUCH more tolerable without them.

 

[Mensa]

Hello all, was a one time regular poster now not so much, I am just throwing it out there to see if anyone else has lost their excitement for this coming season, and for football in general?

I don’t know if it was the CL final that killed me, or the fact we know where teams will finish before this season starts, or that football has lost all of its charm to money now but I just don’t feel the passion I once did whatsoever

Knowing domestic cups are pretty meaningless now and waiting for the Euro super league to be formed sometime soon which will be a large step to killing the game altogether.

I am just wondering if anyone else’s interest had waned at all with the whole thing?

 

[Ed the Duck]

I don't really like football anymore.

Transfer windows, social media, 24/7 media coverage, the gentrification of the crowd, the ridiculous cost of attending and the even more ridiculous wages etc etc

But I love Tottenham. I always go into the new season with renewed hope even though I know deep in my heart it will peter out as always. Such a shame we couldn't take the final step last season.

For me football has always been about the whole day out and from that perspective I still enjoy it. Meeting old mates and making new ones. A few beers and a lot of laughs.

Been a fan for 51 years and still do 20+ games a season with a 5 hour minimum round trip to get there and home again.

If football is only about the winning for a particular individual it is probably not the right sport or right team for them.

Absolutely agree with this. After 55 years supporting Spurs I still get excited every season about our chances, our fixtures and our team. Transfer windows mean nothing until they're over and we see just what our squad looks like then, but for some people it's that which drives their excitement for the season. It's when I read shit like this that I think the 'support' base has gone mad:

Don Giovanni 48 minutes ago

We have only made one first team signing so far, so yeah I'm not really excited fo new season at the moment unless things quickly change.


How shallow if one or two new signings make the difference between being excited about watching and supporting your team through a new season or spending the year whining on a football forum about how crap the team you 'support' is because we failed to sign the player that should have been so easy to get. Everyone's an expert!

So yes I am excited and yes I think we'll win the league and go one better in the ECL and probably win the FA Cup as well. I'll have money on us to win all three. I'll watch every game, sadly most on TV or a stream but I will get to as many live games as I can. And I won't care if we don't sign Dybala or it takes until the end of the window to sign any more players, and I don't really care if Bale doesn't come back on obscene wages just because he used to play for us, and I'll forgive Delli and Sonny and Harry and Moussa if they have the odd poor game, and I'll cry when we get to the Champions League final again and I'll understand why we can't beat the Bank of Man City. Why you may ask - am I stupid? No, it's all because I love Tottenham Hotspur!

 

[cretinousgoat]

Hello all, was a one time regular poster now not so much, I am just throwing it out there to see if anyone else has lost their excitement for this coming season, and for football in general?

I don’t know if it was the CL final that killed me, or the fact we know where teams will finish before this season starts, or that football has lost all of its charm to money now but I just don’t feel the passion I once did whatsoever

Knowing domestic cups are pretty meaningless now and waiting for the Euro super league to be formed sometime soon which will be a large step to killing the game altogether.

I am just wondering if anyone else’s interest had waned at all with the whole thing?

I haven't "had enough" but the constant whinging from the usual entitled suspects on here can drag me down sometimes.

It's fucking irritating to read the same old shite from the same miserable bumpkins banging on about spending 500 million in the transfer market or we will" go backwards"

When we were shit, our fanbase was much more loyal and positive...its weird!

Anyway, decision today made to block the usual suspects. I'd rather an echo chamber of positivity than a well of whinging.

I will always support spurs, but I can also tell you now that if this exclusive European super league is formed, than that will absolutely kill football for me.

 

[SouthStand Billy]

Hello all, was a one time regular poster now not so much, I am just throwing it out there to see if anyone else has lost their excitement for this coming season, and for football in general?

I don’t know if it was the CL final that killed me, or the fact we know where teams will finish before this season starts, or that football has lost all of its charm to money now but I just don’t feel the passion I once did whatsoever

Knowing domestic cups are pretty meaningless now and waiting for the Euro super league to be formed sometime soon which will be a large step to killing the game altogether.

I am just wondering if anyone else’s interest had waned at all with the whole thing?

It’s called the pre-season. Once the season has begun, I’m sure you’ll change your opinion.
We have more to be excited about now than ever. New stadium and thanks to reaching CL final, a new swagger.
I don’t agree that domestic cups are meaningless, I still love cup games. I do agree with Nutter-Naylor about social media, for me that has totally ruined football and turned people into fairies.
To clubs like Woolwich, social media is more important than the games, who gets the most likes is considered to be as important as a trophy. I’m worried that we are going to turn into them if we are not careful.
Look how excited they got just because their biggest flop tweeted something about our trophy cabinet.. it was the sort of comment you’d expect from a 12 year old in the playground and yet they more excited about it than if they won a trophy. It’s pathetic.

Once the whistles goes at 17-30 against Villa, all will seem good again.

 

[Tottenham Sean]

If you had asked me this up until a couple of weeks ago,I would have agreed with you.
But I am really looking forward to the new season now. Not saying the things you highlighted aren't true,just for me I have got my buzz back. What else would I moan about on a Sunday afternoon down the pub or at work Monday morning?...

 

[Nutter-Naylor]

We weren't subjected to football 24/7. And it was far more enjoyable.
Thats why the FA cup was so brilliant, because it was the only televised game and EVERYBODY watched it, it was special.

FA Cup final day was brilliant.

I watched it every year from about 1970 to around the early 1990s without fail. I genuinely cannot recall the last time I watched it. Haven't watched a League cup final since ours in 2008.

 

[Tottenham Sean]

FA Cup final day was brilliant.

I watched it every year from about 1970 to around the early 1990s without fail. I genuinely cannot recall the last time I watched it. Haven't watched a League cup final since ours in 2008.

Indeed it was.
I remember my mum use to make several big plates of sandwiches and then go out shopping,as she loved the fact it was as so quiet. My dad had a mate round,me and my older brother several. My dad and brothers lot drinking cans of beer me and my mate/s drinking coke(we rarely had it my house as kid, apart from Christmas this was probably the only time). Curtains drawn at quarter to 3 to keep the sun off the telly and that was us until the end. Brilliant memories.
I hate the way the cup final has been allowed to be down graded.
I remember cup final it's a knock out on the morning of the final as well. Seem to recall a version of mastermind as well one year. Must have been one of Woolwich were in as the bloke was asked a question and the answer was spurs and he answered "that mob up the road".
The FA Cup final was a major event in many many households back then.

 

[ChrissyWaddleShares]

I’ll be watching because you have to. End of. It’s Spurs, always has been and always will be.

 

[Bazali]

I haven't "had enough" but the constant whinging from the usual entitled suspects on here can drag me down sometimes.

It's fucking irritating to read the same old shite from the same miserable bumpkins banging on about spending 500 million in the transfer market or we will" go backwards"

When we were shit, our fanbase was much more loyal and positive...its weird!

Anyway, decision today made to block the usual suspects. I'd rather an echo chamber of positivity than a well of whinging.

I will always support spurs, but I can also tell you now that if this exclusive European super league is formed, than that will absolutely kill football for me.

Agreed

As you know I’ve been totally hooked since 1960-61 and have never lost my fanaticism and total bias towards anything Spurs but I also get fed up with negative posters who keep continually whining about us not spending enough, Levy and ENIC are cunts etc etc etc

They may have a point so just make it and shut the fuck up but they drone on and on and on ad finitum ad nauseam
We all know who most of them are and some have been doing for years and I don’t know why they even support our great club

But others are worse

They take a dislike to a particular player and during a game if that player fucks up and we concede they are positively delighted

Whenever we concede I am fucking gutted

I don’t like all of our players and whinge occasionally like we all do and get carried away in the heat of the moment like we all do but if they’re wearing our shirt then we should get behind them
Doubtless the usual suspects will be scrolling through my posts on previous match threads going back years looking for evidence of me slagging players off which was why I put in that last caveat

But these so called ‘fans ‘ keep on continuously slagging off the same players during the close season and have continued even for the first friendly

SHUT THE FUCK UP
ENOUGH ALREADY

 

[Boltonspur]

Totally get the sentiment. It’s the snake eating it’s own tail.
I completely switched off from football after the disappointment of the CL final for several weeks, but I am starting to get the itch again now.
Just want us to have a season without any long term injuries. Back in our home, I think we will be a much tougher proposition this time around. A strong & settled squad to rotate (& I hope Poch does rotate more with the squad if it’s all available) & I’m quietly confident that we will be there or thereabouts
Silverware would be nice. Very nice. Any of the silver pots on offer at home or abroad (& I don’t mean some friendly tournament trophy)

 

[Coys1955]

Couldn’t agree more. Twatter is the single most reason as to why modern day football society is ruined.

Fixed it for you.

 

[Legacy Lilywhite]

It’s odd but moments like this really reinforce my love for Tottenham. Jol’s tragic demise, the Ramos affair, Harry’s collapse, AVB’s dour shite, the Sherwood shambles... oh and the two decades leading up to all of that... I love backing the club and being around proper fans when we’re in a rough patch. Then you also get to really enjoy the transition back to success too. I’m also liking the confused expression on plastic football fans at work when I make it clear that I’m a proud Lillywhite despite whatever results are going on.

 

[VoiceOfThePoshSeats]

I will watch, because im a self harming idiot.

 

[RomanzoCriminale]

Wouldn't it be nice if everyone on here went into the season really positive, cut out the bitching and got behind the team.

You just now its going to be same old, same old, slagging off Levy, Poch, the players are useless cunts, Trippiers sh..... err Davies is shit etc etc.

It's the entitled idiots that drain the energy from this site and the game for me. We all know who they are, year after year, same boring shite on repeat.

I can't wait for the new season, even more so the next 3 or 4 years when Poch really has fully been able to benefit from the stadiums increased revenue and build a squad winning trophies consistently.

Posters like John Thomas will come out with bollocks saying shite like the happy clappers won't deserve it, they never wanted investment blah blah blah. We'll just sit back and enjoy it even more knowing we invested our support for the long haul and enjoyed every minute of the journey seeing the club grow, the training complex, the stadium. We fully understood we needed to go through austerity and investment in infrastructure more than the squad to reap the longer term benefits and the glory when the stadium was finally finished.

A couple more signings before deadline and this could be a big, big season for us. Hang on to your seat because the buzz is going to come back in a huge way in these next few years.

 

[BangkokSpud]

Whilst I can easily relate to all the things you mention having followed us for decades this isn't new ....

We've had periods where disaster was always just around the corner '72 -'77 was just a long drawn out wait to be relegated ... from '90 - '05 we were hanging around mid-table West Ham style ... it was pretty grim

From the start of the EPL until now pretty much everyone could pick the winners from '92 - '04 it was United (8) or Woolwich (3) just Blackburn buying the title in '95 broke that trend ... then from '05 - '11 it was United (4) or Chelsea (3) ... it's only in the last 7 years that we've had 4 different winners and now City seem to be putting an end to that cycle with their billionaire squad ....

In all the 25 years of the EPL we've not once started as favourites or even second favourites, in fact for 22 of those 25 seasons we weren't even fancied for the top four .... and it took us 18 attempts to achieve that, now we've managed it five in eight ... happy days

This season we start third favourites and with a few more rumored signings we are very much in with a serious chance of wining something ....

So whilst I get what you're saying for me going to our fabulous new home (at least 4 games planned this year) is still going to be a highlight of my year ... just as the City CL game was last year ... I'm still looking forward to it as much as I did as a kid in the sixties ... it's a disease that simply can't be cured.

 

[ArtyB]

It's all about attitude, I'm only really here to take the piss...

A couple of tips, never read posts that last more than 3 or 4 paragraphs, anybody who writes anything longer are just fucking blowhards...and don't even start on ones with multiple quotes....

 

[Airfixx]

Just noticed how so few of the serial discontents in our midst are posting in this thread....

Further proof (as if it were needed) that the cunts love nothing more than to bitch and moan and that maybe beneath the surface they realise the club is in far better shape that they are honest enough to admit.