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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Macch, 30 Jul 2014.

  1. Totti

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    If you want living proof of how utterly awful the English press is take a gander at this.......Dele Alli tells Tottenham team-mate not to join Chelsea
    The bloke that has written this has it completely the wrong way round. The quotes are from Dier about Alli, what an fucking bafoon, he's written it as though it's Alli about Dier. He even links the video of the original sky interview in the article!!!
     
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    Now imagine how many misconceptions and blatant lies these journalists create on serious topics, just to get a flashy headline. No wonder it's planet of the apes in the US.
     
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    #1486 CJJ, 16 Feb 2017
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    The Eric Dier Lifecycle...

    2014/15
    Lauded as one of our best CBs

    August 2015/16
    Moved to cover DM. Everyone says he's shit and we're cheaping out

    September 2015/16
    Lauded as one of our best DMs, and everyone is glad we didn't get Schneiderlin

    2016/17
    Back at CB, playing gash
     
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    Dier is playing pretty far out of position right now as a LCB. I don't think it's a surprise to his form suffering as a result. We have a tough conundrum right now as I don't think him and Wanyama can coexist in midfield. I really do like seeing Dier in the RCB role of a back three though and think he can be excellent for us there while we have Wanyama.

    He looks very tired right now though and needs a rest, as do most of the rest of the team. Hopefully Jan can get healthy again and we can back to a back 3 and Dier back to RCB.
     
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    Dier cannot see a pass, that is why he takes so long to move the ball forward, teams have picked up on this and pressure him into mistakes, this is something that should be coached out of him & the team in training, its called coaching, something we used to do with our kids, we see a problem or want to make changes so on a training night we coaching how we want it done
    its not that hard, but it does mean you have to coach, not just get players fit then let them play a few practice matches
     
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    Really want to see him back in the midfield, really do think were a better side with dier holding rather than wanyama.
     
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    We used to have a term for players like Dier - Utility Player.
    The term has gone out of fashion but given our lack of squad depth, I think that is his best role - to come plug the gaps when a 1st team defender or midfielder gets injured.
    We have two options:
    - ENIC invest £300million in building squad depth
    - We make Eric the best Utility player in World Football!
     
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    Agree; Wanyama looks like he's doing a good job, but he's as destructive to the balance of the team as he is opposition attacks. The Dier/Dembele axis was perfect and brought out the best in both players as well as the team in general; it needs to be restored.

    Dier has suffered because the reality is he isn't more than a mediocre defender; Pocchettino's vision put him on a pedestal in midfield, and now his insistence on pushing him back to accomodate VW has knocked him off it. It was fair to say he was one of the best players in his position in Europe last season; the only British player I've seen with such tactical intelligence, metronomic passing and brawn is Gareth Barry, who literally carried Toure at City, and Eric eclipses him in mobility and potential. He was a monster for England against Getmany last year.

    Wanyama should be converted into a defender instead, and allow Dier to reforge his positive career trajectory.
     
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    I think he is a first team defender in a back 3. Just not in a back 4.
     
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    Dier is a midfielder. He's been deputizing for the entire season but hasn't played much at all in his best position.
     
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    Been hit with a lot of injuries in defence tbf
     
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    He is a defensive midfielder, who isn't as good as Wanyama in that role.
    He is also a good defender but not as good as Toby and Jan at reading the game, and doesn't have Danny and Walker's pace to compete at left or right back.
    But because he can play in many different roles (utility player) and do a good job when those players get injured, he is a very important player for us.
     
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    I think he'll end up as a top dm
     
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    It's his best position. Initially I thought be might be too tall to be a top dm, as the best ones tended to be on the short side and very mobile, like Kante and Makelele.
    But Victor is 6'2 and shows it can be done.
     
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    Dier's having it tough this season imho. Wanyama's arrival/injuries to CBs means no settled starting role for young Eric, who hasn't hit the heights of last year's performances.

    For me, he is a monster DM who, when compared to Wanyama, can pick a pass more than 5 -10 yards aside from the obvious destructive abilities.

    Although I hate saying it, but the lad needs a rest, physical and moreover mentally. Too many errors at CB are so unforgiving at this level, and he isn't Toby or Jan in that respect.

    We tend to forget how young some of these guys are, only in their 2nd/3rd full PL seasons. They're only going to improve with more experience and Poch's coaching.
     
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    Not good enough at centre half.

    Zero awareness of what's around him, awful positioning and too slow on the ball. No wonder why Everton gave up on him when he was a kid if he was there as a centre half.

    It's all so surprising because when he plays in midfield he IS aware, maybe Toby being behind him meant he was controlled where to be which he obviously doesn't get being beside him and his positioning is so much better in midfield - he's also not slow on the ball in midfield and I wonder if that's just a confidence thing, also if he lost the ball in midfield, he could always run back with time and had Toby and Jan behind him to mop up.

    But man, he should NEVER ever play centre back again - even in a three unless we are literally down to the last legs. I'd much rather Toby/Wimmer/Jan in all honesty.
     
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    As I said before, the lad looks jaded, and his concentration/awareness/ability are suffering as a result, and in turn the team suffers.
    Along with Kane last season, he was pivotal, that insurance policy sitting in front of Toby & Jan. Quick over the pitch, cutting out danger and starting attacks from deep.
     
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