I don't disagree. Some asked me who I consider as "world beating" teams. My definition is that you need a team that could realistically could win the Champions League. This side would maybe reach the quarter-finals, but I think they would stuggled against a topped Woolwich or us.
Fair enough but I disagree, they're superior even without Mario and Robert.
Tuchel has bought their game to a different level but Klopp had years to do what Poch has done in two.
Not doubting we'll get there but their foundations were laid when Ramos banned Huddlestone from Ketchup.
Light years ahead.