Thought he was solid today and not at fault for the goal. Seems he's a target when Toby was the one who lost his man and missed the ball
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And Toby is not up with Jan.I didn't think he had an awful game but he's obviously not up there with Jan or Toby.
His strength too seems to be quite lacking for such a big guy.
And Toby is not up with Jan.
The difference is Sanchez should have his best years in front of him. Toby's are gone.
And Toby is not up with Jan.
The difference is Sanchez should have his best years in front of him. Toby's are gone.
Very true I remember people always used to think it was Toby who made Jan look good. Always said it was the other way and it's been shown with how well Sanchez did with partnered with Jan compared to when he's with Toby.
And there's the big problem. Forget about Toby, we need someone very, very special to replace Jan. Hopefully, De Ligt hates life in Barcelona and wants out within a season to go to North London. Sadly, I doubt it though.I think Toby's arrival brought about a renewed focus in Jan whereupon he's become the defensive leader that until then had evaded him/us.
Since then, Toby, Wimmer, Fazio and now Dav all seem(ed) to play at a higher level alongside him.
Depends. If Jan and Dav can form a partnership like last season again, there is no need of Toby. It's pretty clear Jan is our main player.Would still be preferable to keep Alderweireld unless we have quality already lined up.
And there's the big problem. Forget about Toby, we need someone very, very special to replace Jan. Hopefully, De Ligt hates life in Barcelona and wants out within a season to go to North London. Sadly, I doubt it though.
I'll be honest, I think one of two things has happened Toby and he's struggling with one or both.In time, absolutely. Rest assured 'life' doesn't begin and end with DeLigt tho'.
Deal extention for Jan asap please, Mr Chairman.
As for Toby, I hope he get's his head around staying, but am comfortable that one of JF or DS will develop into a natural successor, but yes a left-pegger coming through the ranks would be most welcome.
I'll be honest, I think one of two things has happened Toby and he's struggling with one or both.
1) Poch has changed the way he wants his CHs to defend and Toby isn't comfortable with it
2) The injury from last season has had a lasting impact on him and he's adapted his game to compensate. At times he looks like Toby before the injury, other times he looks a shadow of himself pre injury.
This summer will tell us a lot and I wouldn't be surprised to see Toby still at Spurs next year.
I would hope that a young, talented all round "diamond in the rough" defender is on our radar.
Toby has developed a lovely knack of being behind the defensive line recently. Two examples was nearly playing Aguero onside and yesterday being 5 yards behind the defensive line for Spam's goal. This alongside his poor jumping ability and his unwillingness to throw his body in the way of shots remind me of someone who is worried about injury.Hadn't really considered that to any significant degree (probably old-skool in my thinking that 'the role is the role'), but I find it hard to judge the individual performances of our back line this season as line-up wise it's been a merry-go-round all season (a settled back line is massive!) + they no doubt won't have been helped by similar circumstances playing out ahead of them in the CM roles either (esp. noting the crap diamond system)... These considerations could equally be extended to Sanchez if we've being even-handed.
Agreed in general about Toby's eratic performance levels this season.
Feels like the summer ought to be a much needed palate-cleanser after a real fucked-up season all across the squad. Tbh, as much as any trf business; I eagerly anticipate an overall re-evaluation of squad/tactics etc. I.e. Who have we got, what shape are they in and how can they best serve us, if at all. Said in another thread yesterday, but it feels like our playing identity has got lost somewhere along the way - Hopefully this is mainly a bi-product of mass injury problems we've had. I'm not calling for a mass-overhaul; but if that's what's deemed required, so be it....
Toby has developed a lovely knack of being behind the defensive line recently. Two examples was nearly playing Aguero onside and yesterday being 5 yards behind the defensive line for Spam's goal. This alongside his poor jumping ability and his unwillingness to throw his body in the way of shots remind me of someone who is worried about injury.
I think an overhaul is needed, if for no other reason than to provide more challenge for players who look to be playing within themselves and to get back to playing a (1) non-diamond formation. But certainly (2) there are more players who have regressed this season than progressed. (3) The fact we have done so well is tribute to a great mentality and attitude. But it needs complimented by talent too.
There is something very 'Everton' about him and it's worrying, certainly needs to improve next season.
I really worry that the English game is too fast for him. I really like big Dav but he needs to improve in many ways, especially his ability to not wander after the ball with his eyes. He's young and he'll get there but a year where I hoped he'd really kick on has seen him stand still. He has time though, just needs to keep adding and improving.