Levy / ENIC

[Joe Clash]

I don't think any one is slagging it off though Sammy. Certainly not me.
Just saying that rather than wanking ourselves silly over all these riches about to trickle into our football club, maybe we should be a little more cautious and reserved at this stage.

It's a shame, you were making a reasonable contribution to the debate before falling under the influence of Spursdem and his blow jobs.

Lets try and get it back on track without the silly outbursts

Liverpool are Sammy’s new team now. Don’t get involved. Klopp is king, Spurs are shit and we know the rest. The King of White Hart Lane has spoken.

 

[Clynelish]

Liverpool are Sammy’s new team now. Don’t get involved. Klopp is king, Spurs are shit and we know the rest. The King of White Hart Lane has spoken.

Van Dijk still shit though.

 

[VoiceOfThePoshSeats]

No but a lot of that is to do with the tv revenue all clubs have record transfer fees and record wages we are the 14th or 15th highest net spenders of the last 5 years apparently but we built a stadium so it kind of balances as far as I'm concerned, the next couple of years are what will reveal ENICs real intention.

I expect ENIC to make a lot of money and I hope they do they have done a great job so far, if they walked out the door with 2 billion in their bin tomorrow I'd clap them out the front door and wish them well.

At the end of the day tho I'm a Spurs fan not an ENIC fan so I'm not going to applaud them for anything they do that's unrelated to Spurs, if they trouser the NHL money I couldn't care less, but I'm certainly not going to cock worship them like the clan of Levy seem to want me to do.

The future will be exactly like the past.

We turnover 450m and we operate within that rather than 180m turnover like the last season at the lane.

Instead of saying ffs levy, buy that 20m pound striker. We will be moaning about spending 70m.

The difference now is that we can buy some of the best players in the world.

 

[Joe Clash]

I don't think any one is slagging it off though Sammy. Certainly not me.
Just saying that rather than wanking ourselves silly over all these riches about to trickle into our football club, maybe we should be a little more cautious and reserved at this stage.

It's a shame, you were making a reasonable contribution to the debate before falling under the influence of Spursdem and his hand jobs.

Lets try and get it back on track without the silly outbursts

Sammy’s worshipping of Liverpool is fucking nauseating. Especially after what he said. He’s a massive turncoat cunt.

 

[John Thomas]

Well of course we are the primary resident at the moment because there is no english NFL franchise at present you prat.

It's like trying to have a debate with a lump of wood, isnt it.
We all agree we're the Primary resident, or Anchor tennant as we're officially called.
Its what happens when ENIC achieve their goal of planting a permanent NFL team in the multi sports and entertainment complex. Thats the issue we're all talking about.

ochfacepalm:

 

[Mandy]

That’s true. So if there was a clash of fixtures who do you think would prevail? Be honest with yourself and then you’ll find your answer. Good evening.

Whilst Spurs are in the Premier League they would take priority because that's one of the league's rules.

From the rulebook regarding ground sharing:

No Club shall have or enter into a ground-sharing agreement unless the agreement contains a legally enforceable provision to the effect that the playing of the Club's League Matches shall always take precedence over the activities of the other party to the agreement"

 

[Joe Clash]

tennant

Don’t you find it ironic that the chosen drink of the homeless is tenants?

 

[superstaryid]

Whilst Spurs are in the Premier League they would take priority because that's one of the league's rules.

From the rulebook regarding ground sharing:

No Club shall have or enter into a ground-sharing agreement unless the agreement contains a legally enforceable provision to the effect that the playing of the Club's League Matches shall always take precedence over the activities of the other party to the agreement"

According to a bloke on here earlier London NFL games could only take place on a Sunday because that's the only way you could do it before midnight without isolating the American tv audience, what happens if we are in the Europa League?

Thurs/sat Thurs/monday

 

[Joe Clash]

Whilst Spurs are in the Premier League they would take priority because that's one of the league's rules.

From the rulebook regarding ground sharing:

No Club shall have or enter into a ground-sharing agreement unless the agreement contains a legally enforceable provision to the effect that the playing of the Club's League Matches shall always take precedence over the activities of the other party to the agreement"

So who do you think would prevail Mandy - since you know the rules? Who would move aside?

 

[SchmoodSpur]

It's like trying to have a debate with a lump of wood, isnt it.
We all agree we're the Primary resident, or Anchor tennant as we're officially called.
Its what happens when ENIC achieve their goal of planting a permanent NFL team in the multi sports and entertainment complex. Thats the issue we're all talking about.

ochfacepalm:

AHAHAHAHAHA

So after all this, it turns out you agree with me!

Absolutely amazing.

Remember how I started this by saying you are imbecilic?

Way to prove me wrong, man.

Hahahaha, absolutely incredible! I can't stop laughing.

P.s. See BF3's post that you are desperate to not acknowledge. It also blows your claim of a London NFL side being ''100%'' bigger than Spurs out the water. You absolute shower.

 

[John Thomas]

The last 10 or so pages of this thread are the best argument I've ever seen for why the international break should be abolished.

It's still a very reasonable and well balanced debate if you syphon out all the over reactionary shite of the last 12 hours or so.

 

[NorseYid]

Jesus. Because you can’t answer a simple question you go on the attack? There was no straw man question. You’re behaving like a self-centred arsehole. Because you’ve been found wanting you call me petulant? You should have shagged that intern you needy Scandinavian bore. Imagine that? You are such a wanker you started a thread about it. As if anyone gave a shit. Look at your avatar - the symbolism of a retarded child. You blokes make me laugh. You’re the bitch of the world these days, just fuck off.

Seems like the "child" part hit home.

 

[sammyspurs]

No but a lot of that is to do with the tv revenue all clubs have record transfer fees and record wages we are the 14th or 15th highest net spenders of the last 5 years apparently but we built a stadium so it kind of balances as far as I'm concerned, the next couple of years are what will reveal ENICs real intention.

I expect ENIC to make a lot of money and I hope they do they have done a great job so far, if they walked out the door with 2 billion in their bin tomorrow I'd clap them out the front door and wish them well.

At the end of the day tho I'm a Spurs fan not an ENIC fan so I'm not going to applaud them for anything they do that's unrelated to Spurs, if they trouser the NHL money I couldn't care less, but I'm certainly not going to cock worship them like the clan of Levy seem to want me to do.

But you’ve basically said the club invested all the extra CL money in the team.....why didn’t ENIC just steal it all then

 

[SchmoodSpur]

Whilst Spurs are in the Premier League they would take priority because that's one of the league's rules.

From the rulebook regarding ground sharing:

No Club shall have or enter into a ground-sharing agreement unless the agreement contains a legally enforceable provision to the effect that the playing of the Club's League Matches shall always take precedence over the activities of the other party to the agreement"

Hahahaha, this is an absolute smokeshow!

More evidence to embarrass you with John Thomas

This is amazing.

 

[VirginiaSpur]

Hey guys! How things going i...

Oh. Okay, I'll leave you guys to the slaughter. Please inform me when the internet fight is over, k thanks.

 

[SchmoodSpur]

Hey guys! How things going i...

Oh. Okay, I'll leave you guys to the slaughter. Please inform me when the internet fight is over, k thanks.

It's been over for a while.

This is the afterparty where the vanquished are licking each other's wounds.

 

[Mandy]

According to a bloke on here earlier London NFL games could only take place on a Sunday because that's the only way you could do it before midnight without isolating the American tv audience, what happens if we are in the Europa League?

Thurs/sat Thurs/monday

Why would that be an issue? The stadium can be turned around in less than 24 hours so I don't see why we can't play on a Saturday on Monday if the NFL is playing on a Sunday.
Personally though I don't think a franchise will happen so it won't be an issue. We may get more international series games long term, but they can be easily scheduled around the football fixtures.

So who do you think would prevail Mandy - since you know the rules? Who would move aside?

I think the football team will get priority, they have to if we want to remain in the league. I also don't think a UK NFL franchise is likely to happen realistically and in the unlikely event it does, I don't think it would ever earn enough money to make Enic forfeit it's premier league spot.

 

[SchmoodSpur]

I'm too lazy to go back and quote every post so here we go.

A London NFL team will bring in more revenue than any Premier League team, but especially Tottenham.

This is unlikely, in fact Tottenham is likely to generate more money than any potential London NFL franchise, especially in the first 10 years a team would be in London establishing a true local fan base and not just "NFL fans" of other teams. Fell free to read more here and here. For Spurs financial data, here.

The average NFL team made £355m in 2018. It's important to break that revenue down, however. About £216m of that is shared revenue (mostly TV money). The remaining income will be from "local" sources, which is a nice way of saying team controlled revenue. Given the assumed local (European) fanbase is around 6m in 2020 (source), and assuming they all instantly become London fans overnight, they are very comparable to the Philadelphia Eagles (metro area 6.1m), who made £378m last year.

Spurs in 2017/18 made £381m. Spurs are projected to make £450-500m in the new stadium.

Also, FYI, the cost of including the retractable pitch was likely somewhere in the £50-100m range, with the NFL chipping in £10m . It seems worth the investment given the NFL contract alone will likely bring in £40m (we made £4m this past week) , not to mention all the other events the club can host since we aren't destroying the pitch to host them.

ENIC will be getting an expansion NFL team or own an NFL team.

This is EXTREMELY unlikely, for a couple reasons.

1) The average NFL team is valued at £2.35b, but to actually purchase an existing or expansion team, it will likely cost £3b+ (that's 100 Sissokos!). ENIC is not paying that kind of money for an NFL team. And even if they would/could...

2) The NFL is not going to expand to bring in a London franchise. The NFL conference alignment and parity is heavily dependent on a certain number of franchises. It is much more likely the NFL simply relocates an existing team (my bet is on the Chargers, who are failing spectacularly in Los Angeles), and any owner that is looking to relocate to London will not be looking to sell.

The USA will only recognize "FUTURE STADIUM NAME HERE" as an NFL venue and some other rabbit-hole argument that I got lost in.

This is a bit silly. Americans will know that it's Tottenham's stadium, or probably "that Spurs soccer team". The NFL team will be a tenant, but the fact of the matter is that it is purpose built for multiple events and it will continue to expand the global presence of Tottenham, which is only a good thing.

ENIC will pocket all the revenue and won't reinvest any of it into the club!

Maybe! I don't know! That's not what Levy has been saying at THST meetings and all other public discussions regarding the stadium, but shrug emoji! No one knows. We can hope, though.

Apologies for not addressing some other things with more details, but this took my far longer to write than I was planning.

Still a stunner of a post.

 

[Joe Clash]

Seems like the "child" part hit home.

Still no answer then? You’re a windbag Norse. Call me a dick all day long, but that will never make you remotely interesting. Many might disagree, but I find you to be one of the most tedious of posters on this tragic site. You’d send meerkats on whizz to sleep. Want to bang on about the intern again? Proper old mid-life crisis there you sad old cunt. Jesus - what a life.

 

[Joe Clash]

Why would that be an issue? The stadium can be turned around in less than 24 hours so I don't see why we can't play on a Saturday on Monday if the NFL is playing on a Sunday.
Personally though I don't think a franchise will happen so it won't be an issue. We may get more international series games long term, but they can be easily scheduled around the football fixtures.



I think the football team will get priority, they have to if we want to remain in the league. I also don't think a UK NFL franchise is likely to happen realistically and in the unlikely event it does, I don't think it would ever earn enough money to make Enic forfeit it's premier league spot.

Mandy I wish I could get behind you.