He's fucking shite, useless cunt hasn't even won us a caracokey cup. Fucking get rid, Steve Bruce will be available soon.
I think i might be exaggerating a tad.
I think i might be exaggerating a tad.
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Because twats like you think that Poch is Jesus Christ and anything said against him is blasphemy.
I heard it al about AVB too.....when 5th was better than 4th and having a record points tally was more fun than beating AC Milan under Redknapp
You know it completely rational to support a certain change and once it happens and there negative upshot not forseen to change your mind?
in fairness mate, you describing anyone who defends Poch as a sect is no different to folk calling you a cunt for being critical.
both a bit silly in equal measure.
Of course.
Hindsight is 20/20 or however the saying goes.
God knows I have made this mistake a couple of times.
Embarrassing melting even by your standards
Get your multis in on the action too - we need all hands on deckBin vote cast
No because its ok to criticise Poch which is what some dont understand.
Heres a summary of my views ( and I can dig up old posts which back them all)
Poch is the best manager we´ve had in decades
We´ve beaten some of the best teams in the world under him
Played some of our best football in my life under him
He´s transformed many average players into title contenders
I Think he will win stuff here
I want him to stay
He seems like a top bloke
He understands the club
However:
He hasnt utilised the squad in terms of all the players hes had at his disposal in 5 years
He has dismissed the domestics
Some players have a license to play poorly and still be picked
He has bizarely dropped Jan
Our tactics in a the Diamond is confusing to the players (his Words) we look terrible playing it, but he keeps with it.
We abandon the press (our most effective style of play)
We go behind in games way too often
We cant defend set pieces
Feel free to disagree with any of that, but the difference is I have the ability see good and bad in the manager. Thats not being in a sect.
The fact I will soon be banned for my views says everything you need to know.....you can only repeat yourself if you´re tugging him off.
i dont disagree, i'm merely saying that anyone calling you a cunt for that is just as silly as you calling them a sect for not agreeing, and vice versa.
this board is so black and white at times, it seems anyone that doesn't agree 100% is an apologist or a cunt. I usually find the answer lies somewhere in the middle.
not having a pop at you mate just a general point.
And thats fair enough but the difference is that actually agree with most peoples positive views.
I dont think Im being out of line by saying the City game wasnt a genius set up
Who would have thought that the European clubs would not change their transfer window for us and that they would excel in such a scenario, circling around English clubs like vultures and pressuring them to sell? I get your point but this wasn't remotely "unforeseen".
Agreed
Thing is the change we made, makes perfect sense. They’re just being pricks
We’d all like to win a cup but saying it makes you a cunt apparently
Perhaps I am under analyzing two topics which seem to reoccur on this thread; however, I think it is very possible that there is a logical reason Jan has not featured yet that we are simply not privy to at this point. Second, while we haven’t looked great in the diamond, and Poch has said it is confusing to the players at this point, perhaps he thinks, that, like most complicated things in life, it requires an academic understanding and practice/experience to become second nature. I think he believes it can be our best formation once everyone gets on the same level of understanding and is not willing to discard it out of hand. I also imagine we will see Jan sooner, rather than later, with no explanation from player, Poch, or club.
He's done brilliantly, sustained excellence of a type that would not be reflected just by nicking a cup somewhere along the line.
But the point of football is to win things, and it will be an absolute tragedy if the Poch era ends trophyless. This is the greatest managerial tenure at a club without silverware to show for it in the history of the global game by an absolute country mile (Moyes' Everton weren't nearly as good, Klaus Topmoller did the runner-up treble at Bayer Leverkusen but that was his only full season, we've sustained well longer than Kevin Keegan's Newcastle), it's beyond unprecedented for this sustained quality to go totally unrewarded.
All of which is to say, I've got blue balls over here, and who am I kidding to pretend otherwise?
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Is the League Cup really that great of a legacy? Even the FA Cup isn't really all that anymore and whom amongst us gets excited at the thought of our playing at Wembley? I was there when we played Rochdale in from of 20k spectators? Were you?
What's the prize for lifting either? A place in the EL. Oh...goodie. Can't even have a parade if you win the League Cup as it's almost mid-season and a bit shit to hold one a few months later.
The FA Cup is a glorious old cup but emphasis on the 'old'. It would be nice to win but not the epoch-shaking event some on here seem to think it would be.
If anything we have been spoilt by Poch not the opposite and are incredibly lucky to have him. We might have given the job full-time to Tim or appointed De Boer in the summer of 2014 instead of Poch.
Be careful of what you wish for.
What's the prize for lifting either? A place in the EL. Oh...goodie. Can't even have a parade if you win the League Cup as it's almost mid-season and a bit shit to hold one a few months later.
The FA Cup is a glorious old cup but emphasis on the 'old'. It would be nice to win but not the epoch-shaking event some on here seem to think it would be.
If anything we have been spoilt by Poch not the opposite and are incredibly lucky to have him. We might have given the job full-time to Tim or appointed De Boer in the summer of 2014 instead of Poch.
Be careful of what you wish for.
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