1) We are financially 6th in the league. Poch has the least resources of the top 6 (transfer fees and wage bill) and has even gone windows without making a signing (never heard of until last season). He has us punching well above our weight with consistency that is outstanding and which has probably never been seen.
We are financially 6th and? Do we have the sixth best team squad in the league? No we don’t - virtually everyone has us to finish 3rd, virtually everyone acknowledges that we have a better team/squad than Chelsea, Woolwich and United. How is that possible using your logic? We don’t have the market capacity to compete with those clubs but we haven’t needed to - we built an elite team via other means just like Liverpool did because they haven’t got the market capacity to compete with those other teams. It just a fatuous argument to make - we could have the Brazil 70 World Cup winning side and you would still be arguing we cannot compete because 6 other clubs have greater revenue. What matters is the players we have and we currently have the 4th most valuable squad in world football according to CIES. But despite having Kane, Ali, Son, Eriksen, Ndombele, Lloris etc we have no right to compete with other sides who have greater revenue ( but in some cases) inferior teams? Seriously get out.
2) As a result of lack of investment in the squad we often lack certain pieces and/or depth to challenge on more than one front. It makes sense to prioritise the league and CL where we can generate more revenue. This can be put back into the team. We're not signing Ndombele and Lo Celso if win an FA Cup and have no CL run. History literally shows that the longer and more consistently a team finishes in the top 4 the more likely they are to win trophies.
Lack of investment in the squad? Are people still clinging to this after the summer we have had? We spent over £100 on two players and yet we are still getting the he hasn’t been backed narrative. As for history showing CL qualification and silverware - when can we expect it to yield silverware for us, what’s the timeline. If that’s right then why are we the only PL side who has secured consistent CL campaigns not to have won a trophy? How do you account for that?
3) Despite having almost no budget Poch has had us in title races and cup finals/semis. If Leicester and Chelsea had to play European games during their title winning seasons they most likely would not have won the league. We were extremely unlucky especially considering we ammassed the most points over 2 seasons at the time.
So Leicester whose budget was a fraction of ours beats us to the title but this is all down to an unfair advantage? Correct me if I wrong but didn’t we play second string sides in the Europa and throw the game against Dortmund. But we were just ‘unlucky’ right?
4) Knockout cup games involve some luck. That's a fact. It's silly to demand a trophy unless you're substantially better than the opposition.
I love the whole luck argument it is just so wonderfully stupid. We lost to Crystal Palace and Leicester both twice in the FA cup but that was down to just bad luck. Doesn’t it strike you as odd that other top 6 sides keep on getting lucky when it comes to winning things but we do not? Why do you believe we have such an unlucky manager?
5) You say Poch has a team good enough to win trophies and challenge for top 4. That's why you're not a manager or talent scout but instead some hater who talks shite on the net. Saying we have a team capable of doing both does not make it true. I think the man who had us finish 2nd and 3rd in the league and took us to a CL final with basically no net spend has a better fucking idea than you do tbh. Let me repeat that again because this is central to your constant bitching- you do not get to decide that our squad is so strong we should demand to win trophies and get top 4. You are a nobody. Our squad expectations are not based on your bizarre sense of entitlement.
Well it’s not just me virtually all the media say the same - you have two of the games most successful managers in PEP and Mourhino state that we can challenge for the league this season. Independent bodies value our squad as the fourth most value but according to you a top 4 finish and an FA Cup or league cup is above us. It’s quite something when you have a supporter who will readily disregard external commentators, will readily run down the quality of our team/ squad simply to elevate our manager. It tell you were your loyalties lie and it isn’t with the club.
It is a FACT that final league standings nearly always correlate with spending (transfers/wages) except for a few anomalies. We are already over achieving it is retarded to demand we overachieve more.
It’s a FACT apart for those FACTs which go against this. Liverpool can win a CL despite their limited financial capacity in comparison to the likes of United, City, Bayen, Real and Barca but it’s different with us. Leicester can win a league title when they even trailed us financially ( I take it your criticised Poch for allowing a club with significantly less revenue to beat us) but that’s just one of those things right? A. Madrid beat Real and Barca to a league title so did Dortmund with Bayern but I guess they are just the wrong sort of FACTs right?
Liverpool have invested heavily nearly every year. Stupid comparison. Judge managers equally ffs. Chelsea have had years of heavy spending and only dipped because of players downing tools periodically, they were not a team of bums Sarri performed miracles with.
Liverpool have a lower net spend average than the likes of Everton and Bournemouth - none of Salah, Mane and Firmino cost big money. And their record signing in Van Dyke was paid for by the sale of their best player Countino. They have just spent no money this summer - ours in comparison dwarfs theres , I take it on that basis you now expect us to finish above them? As for Chelsea - they have spent heavily and none of that has been a success, it was a mediocre side that only had 2 star players ( one of which Kante was being played out of position and was a shadow of his former self). But no let’s ignore that and pretend that their squad was better than ours because we are sixth in the revenues leagues and they are higher. It’s quite something that so many come out with this compete nonsense.
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