Tottenham Hotspur v Liverpool

[Chelmsford Spurs]

Thought Wanyama had a good game today, Vorm was terrific can't fault him, his speed off the line gives me confidence going into the season and cup games when Lloris is fit again. Eriksen has been a passenger for a while now, the guy needs a fucking rocket up his arse.

 

[Mick Cooper]

We're getting relegated , aren't we ?

have faith. If we can draw the remaining 35 games we can hit the magic 40 points.

 

[Raiders]

boring football
will not have another chance like last year squander squander
most likely finish top 10 this year

 

[Raiders]

I think Janssen will be dropped. I think I would do the same. Not because of his performance but because Liverpool won't sit back. Tactically it makes more sense to put Alli back in.

 

[Colonel_K]

Janssen to break his duck and to score a brace would be very nice indeed. Never underestimate the Dippers they seem to raise their game for us. Hopefully our settled squad and game plan will be better than their. We need to press and press well.

 

[SoCalSpurs]

Nobody is as nervous as Eddie!
:chadliwtf:

I don't know man, when it comes to Liverpool I get nervous as fuck

 

[FokkenPrawn]

What are those loons at RAWK saying about this game?

This will be the last league game between these two teams played at this ground which was opened some 117 years ago. Tottenham will move temporarily to Wembley while this ground gets demolished to help build a brand new stadium just next doors to be opened at the start of the 2018-19 season.

Match Preview:
Jurgen Klopp will take his team to the site where his career as a Liverpool manager started a little less than a year ago against a team that will most likely be a direct rival for a top four spot at the end of the season. Both teams had mixed results at the first two rounds of the league, Spurs, looked second best for the most part in their season opener against Everton, in a game where they lost their starting goal keeper Hugo Lloris due to injury, only grabbing a draw and it took them the best part of 83 minutes to unlock Crystal Palace's defense, this past Saturday to beat Alan Pardew's men with a goal that came off a set piece. Maurico Pochettino's men haven't looked at their best so far especially in the middle of the park where Moussa Dembele's vision and Dele Alli's energy have fired them to third place last season.

Liverpool on the other hand, managed to show their absolute best and worst so far in the 180 minutes that have been played. Against Woolwich, Klopp's men managed to score four past their opponents, with three goals coming in the first 20 minutes of the second half, however, they almost let their three goal advantage slip by conceding twice, winning 4-3 in a game that looked almost over when the score was 4-1. Against Burnley, Klopp's men looked bereft of ideas of how to get into any scoring areas and despite having %81 of the possession, they looked clueless and lost 2-0 with a lot of question marks hanging over their backline especially the left back and the holding midfielder positions.

Both managers love their teams to press early and high up the pitch when the opposition's defense have the ball. Spurs & Liverpool usually cover more kilometers per match than most teams in the league, so it is safe to say that the real battle will be in the middle of the park.

Pochettino preferred to start both league games so far with Victor Wanayama and Eric Dier in a midfield of two with Dele Alli being dropped in the home game against Crystal Palace for Victor Jensen essentially changing the formation from 4-2-3-1 to a 4-4-2 with Eriksen and Lamela occupying wide roles in both games. It is fair to say that he will revert back to a 4-2-3-1 to match the physicality of Liverpool's midfield which so far in the league have been represented by Lallana and Wijnaldum with Henderson playing a holding midfielder behind them in a 4-3-3 formation. Depending on his injury status, Emre Can might start in Henderson's role, offering more protection to the back four which will probably see Joel Matip start his first league game in place of Ragner Klavan. The former Schalke defender will have, the difficult task of marking last season's top goal scorer Harry Kane in his league debut for the Reds.

Upfront for the Reds, is where it gets interested, Klopp started the game against Woolwich with Firmino in the middle with Mane and Coutinho behind him on the wings, however with Mane injured for the second game, he started Sturridge in his place and surprisingly, the Englishman played most of the game as a right inside forward. In the midweek, league cup tie against Burton Albion, Mane, who has been a revelation for Liverpool so far, regained his position with Origi playing a central striker and Firmino shifted to the left, the Reds scored three goals before Sturridge was introduced in place of Origi and scoring a brace himself. Jurgen Klopp certainly has the options up top but needs to start with a recognized Center Forward as Liverpool lacked any presence in the opposition's penalty area against Burnely, because Sturridge, Coutinho and Firmino all dropped deep to demand the ball and no one stood on the shoulders of the last defender in the box, which limited Liverpool's options to shots from 35 yards.

It is going to be a tight affair, if the reverse fixture from last season at Anfield taught us anything.

Cock and Bollocks Knickerless

Can I be a twat?

It's Hotspur, not Hotspurs. I know!

Garnier

The players started very slowly against Woolwich/burnley/burton. Could be costly against Tottenham's duracell bunnies

A win could make optimism rise around again.

XI:Simon,Nathaniel,Dejan,Joel,James,Jordan,Gini,Adam,Philippe,Roberto,Sadio
I think Emre won't be ready for the weekend,if he is ,then he displaces Wijnaldum

LOHAG

I hate these lunchtime KO's
Can anyone remember a decent atmosphere or game in any fixture in the last few seasons?
Think it will work in our favour this time though. Early KO, reduced capacity in the ground and chuffing great hole in the stadium will lead to a shite atmosphere.
We weather the early advances, quieten the crowd then begin to impose ourselves.
A lot depends I think on the midfield performance. They hassle and press with as much energy, and perhaps a little more skill, than us. We need to move the ball quickly through the middle of the pitch, give it to mane, firmino, studge, sit back and watch the goals fly in.
2-1 the Reds.

:vertna:

Halewooder

Think these will pose more of a threat than Woolwich did a couple of weeks back.

Not going to end well for us I reckon. 2-0 Spurs win.

bornandbRED

3-0 Liverpool. Sturridge 2 goals at least.

pyroparty

Will be a tough game but we've a decent record there in recent times! Hopefully they dont have a shot on target though.

Primativ

"Dembele's vision"

Dembele has many excellent attributes but vision isn't one of them. Try strength, ball control, dribbling, tackling, retaining possession etc

In any case, he's suspended for this game.

I think for this game, Poch will revert back to his usual 4 - 2 - 3 - 1. The back five picks itself, Wanyama and Dier as the two holding midfielders, Lamela Alli and Eriksen playing off Kane. I think Janssen will go back to the bench despite an impressive home debut last week.

It will be a really interesting game this one, as Spurs have probably the best defence in the league, whilst also still retaining a dangerous attack which it's fair to say hasn't quite clicked into gear yet, and Liverpool have started the season scoring goals for fun but have looked really poor at the back.

Should be a good game.

Redcap


Should be a good game.

With Wanyama and Dier in front of the back 4, it wouldn't be difficult to have the best defense in the game. Surely they wouldn't be so negative that they'll only attack us with 4 players at home.

Inpeace

We played with them for the first two games (including C palace at home), didn't look defensive to me both Wanyama and Dier do burst forward. Injuries permitting it is a certainty that both play.

Half chance Erikson gets dropped and Jansen plays.

Bend It Like Aurelio

We will be soaking up the pressure I think, we haven't really played with any real press this season yet. I've seen us constantly defending in a compact 4-1-4-1 or 4-5-1 so far. But even in the Woolwich game, we weren't pressing like we did at times last season. Not sure what is happening, perhaps Klopp is wary of having too many injuries before the team gets their legs.

Firmino Coutinho and Mane will play, with Mane as our main outlet on the counter. Lallana Henderson and Wijnaldum the midfielders, Milner Matip Lovren and Clyne in the back.

ochbye:

clinical
Close game this will be. They have a midfield of DMs and we have a midfield of AMs. Maybe we can do a swap and have one of each?

:chadliwtf:

Cock and Bollocks Knickerless
Not going to b easy but we've done very well in big away games under Klopp so we should go into it with confidence.

We can cause them problems, even with their good defence. If their full backs do bomb on then hopefully Mane can catch them out of position on the break, definitely a weapon we haven't had in the last couple of seasons.

Clearly they'll pose our defence a lot of tough questions too. You could easily make a case for any result here but I think we can win it. But I'll sit on the fence and plump for 1-1!

SerbianScouser

A mother of all must not lose games.

El Lobo

Yeah...three games into the season

 

[CousinEddie]

Hate to say it, but may hate the dippers more than woolwich. Always been a close call for me.
6:30 in the mrng kickoff is perfect for me. Cocktails and pregame at 5:30, sleep it off by noon. Good to go.
Going with 3-1 good guys. Vinny puts us out of harm's way late.







That being said, I'm a nervous fucking wreck.....

 

[Louisiana Hotspur]

Coutinho could miss it with a hammy issue.
:avbpray:

 

[CousinEddie]

.

You serious Bro...?
You hate LIVERPOOL....
more than WOOLWICH?
Tha'fucks wrong wit you?

Get a grip and have a wank or something... you're not right!

ochfacepalm:aulinhobored::avbfacepalm:

To put it into context... out of these two players... which one do you have more of a problem with?

left us to sign for Arseanal
:keane: left us to sign for Liverpool

EXACTLY!

Don't get me wrong... I was disappointed that Robbie decided to leave us for his 'Boyhood Club'TM

But that was nothing... NOTHING compared to the grief I felt when Campbell left for THEM... that was pure treachery!!

I know, I know...
I knew I'd get some grief over that. In my defense, I did say 'may'.

There are a ton more dipper plastics here in the States than woolwich.
And to a person they're loudmouth cunts who know fuck all about proper football.
Or soccer, as they call it.
And don't get me started on the cunt John Henry. Or the cunt FSG. Or the city of Boston as a whole. Cunts, every one.

It's easy to build an intense hatred of the dippers over here.

 

[B-0-Sspurs]

Ah mate.... that kinda talk is a bit embarrassing and small time.

No it's not. Their forward has been booked and has now committed two more bookable offences, no action. Kane taken out, no free kick, vertonghen booked for what?

Sorry if you can't see this but this ref is beyond incompetent

 

[Freudlyuchenko]

Does anyone know what we do in training other than jog lightly around training cones for photos?

 

[Don Giovanni]

''We don't need strengthening, our squad is perfect'', so said the Levy supporting, net-spend wankoffs happyclappers.

 

[CJJ]

See Admin , give him a smiley and he'll score

 

[1882]

Am I allowed to take a point and be happy that a poor performance didn't result in a 4-1 spanking... without being labelled a Poch 'fanboy', and a brainwashed Spurs Monthly subscriber who is under Levy's evil spell?

We'll grow from this... we need to learn from this season, and remember what we did so right last season...
We've been slow starters in both seasons under Poch, but at least after the first 3 games this season we're still unbeaten, and 3 points better off than this time last year...

now that's progress!



Janssen is gonna take a while to bed in to the PL though, isn't he?

 

[Don Giovanni]

Onomah should be fined for that brainless offside.

 

[Joe Clash]

I'm a bit confused about why people (I mean cunts) are kicking off about our start.

Two draws (Everton are strong at home, Liverpool are a good team) and a win is a decent start. Fucking get over yourselves. The performances will get better, it is far far too early to be losing faith.

Anyone who disagrees with me...well go fuck your self you cock juggling thundercunt.

What happened to our support? Really. What have we done to deserve these instant gratification cunts? I really fucking hate them - they're embarrassing.

 

[Legacy Lilywhite]

The start of a season is always going to be a bit iffy, unless you are lucky. Players can't and don't have full match fitness or, more critically, sharpness. One of our key players can't play until mid September. Picking up points is all that matters, and 5 from 3 is fine. For goodness sake, the two draws we've had are matches that are a respectable par for any team in the division. We're doing just fine. Have a little faith or fuck off with your armchair and support Bayern Munich. They won 6-0 this weekend. That might make you happy.

 

[Joe Clash]

For me it was our lack of power and pace in the forward areas. We press and Liverpool press which means power and pace become decisive factors. Advantage Liverpool with Couthino and Mane.

Ideally we should have realised their advantage and boxed more clever like we did against Stoke last season and adopted a more sit and strike game, instead we went on the press and they just out powered us and our pressed us.

This type of game is perfect for a player who can hold the ball under pressure and drive forward, we always miss Dembele but yesterday more so in my view.

You're probably right about Dembele, but if you are, how poor is the rest of the team? I don't even want to think about that. If we can't win because one player is out, then wtf.

 

[Nick "Trevor" Sharp]

There are so many other aspects of the game that could be discussed and put to a debate but people get stuck with this pointless penalty argument. Yest it was a penalty, in the heat of the moment and the lack of 1000000 camera angles and a replay option any HUMAN being would award a penalty for that.
People should be discussing the overall performance of the game. The fact how Dier did a pretty good job replacing Walker and managed the get a few pretty decent crosses into the box (one that led to the goal). How almost none of our players are capable to dribble past opponents consistently. Wanyama, Walker and Lamela are our top dribblers with a good success percentage. We have a backup keeper that would be first choice for the majority of the PL teams but a subs bench with almost no real threat or real tactical change potential.
But yes, lets keep looking at 8 frames from 20 angles and shout MATCHFIXING.
Posting these absurd slow-mo, zoomed in and cropped clips makes us look like the fools we laugh at from other teams.

This is a simple point, it was outside the box - this is a fact, not opinion, so it can be made and move on. I don't blame the referee for getting mistake, but it was one.

Liverpool's offside effort was offside, only just but offside all the same.

What frustrates me is that Sky gloss over (and BBC ignore entirely) the former whilst pouring all over the latter claiming that because it was only just offside the Lino should have allowed it.

Granted, what's more interesting to discuss is how we played, but these points still need to be made when considering context. People get caught up in headlines, and instead of "Liverpool get unwarranted penalty" it's all "Liverpool get harsh offside decision". Instead of "Janssen denied penalty" it's "Liverpool denied penalty" - when again it was clear that the tussle happened entirely before the corner was taken.

That's why people take issue with it, that's why we discuss incidents like is, because the media we follow are so biased towards Liverpool and don't give a fair comment.