Summer Transfer Thread 2023! - Closed (Maybe)

[Richard Arlison]

Bastoni was a completely different case.
His girlfriend had just given birth.
Bremer was linked with many foreign clubs (including us). He was waiting for Italian citizenship. He wasn’t going to leave Italy regardless of the money.
Money is obviously a factor. So is ‘the project’.
BUT other factors play into the equation and each individual is different.
I see your Tonali and raise you a Modric.

Modric?

He’s played outside Croatia most of his life.

Do you really (really?) think Bastoni couldn’t have got done for the right money?

Tonalis dad is a Milan ultra, his life is Milan, he took a pay cut to make it work there. Newcastle paid the money, the club told him they needed it, he went.

It’s maybe more comfortable to believe the warm lie. Bastoni could have got done.

 

[SouthCoastSpur]

Just think how nice it will be to have a coach actually try and coach the players to improve them not just implement a rigid system and rant when it doesn't work.
Not saying all of our under performers will get better but I expect some of them at least to respond to some positivity and playing a better more attacking brand of football.

 

[Airfixx]

Do we really want to take up a non HG spot with him?

He's HG.....

 

[SouthCoastSpur]

Modric?

He’s played outside Croatia most of his life.

Do you really (really?) think Bastoni couldn’t have got done for the right money?

Tonalis dad is a Milan ultra, his life is Milan, he took a pay cut to make it work there. Newcastle paid the money, the club told him they needed it, he went.

It’s maybe more comfortable to believe the warm lie. Bastoni could have got done.

Thing is we will never know but is it so unbelievable that home grown, playing for your own club, young family, successful club doesn't want to move?

 

[NotThatTedHughes]

Modric?

He’s played outside Croatia most of his life.

Do you really (really?) think Bastoni couldn’t have got done for the right money?

Tonalis dad is a Milan ultra, his life is Milan, he took a pay cut to make it work there. Newcastle paid the money, the club told him they needed it, he went.

It’s maybe more comfortable to believe the warm lie. Bastoni could have got done.

You’re implying that players will move for the right money under any circumstances. They won’t. I am using Modric — who has been offered silly money to go to Saudi — to prove a point.
Bastoni point blank refused to move. Not to us. Not to anyone. It was made clear repeatedly and I have offered you an explanation as to why. You can accept it or use a transfer relating to a different player under different circumstances to confirm your bias.

 

[Airfixx]

Did not realise almost 75% of that list the players were signed and within a year the manager was sacked. Wonder what this list would be like if we adjusted for football transfer inflation. I assume the list would not look so bad.

I think it would look worse...... 20-30m in old money trf money is virtually double that now.

 

[Macch]

Modric?

He’s played outside Croatia most of his life.

Do you really (really?) think Bastoni couldn’t have got done for the right money?

Tonalis dad is a Milan ultra, his life is Milan, he took a pay cut to make it work there. Newcastle paid the money, the club told him they needed it, he went.

It’s maybe more comfortable to believe the warm lie. Bastoni could have got done.

There's countless quotes from Bastoni and his agent last season saying he wants to stay with Inter.

I get that Tonali wants to make his daddy proud, but I haven't seen anything like that from him in the press this summer.

 

[sudoku]

Gold mentioned on his podcast with Guest that he wouldn't rule out Spurs bringing CCV back because Ange really like him and Spurs have a cheap buy back option. Think he would count against HG too right?

HG and club trained I believe. VG passer but shortish and not swift. Would he want to come back?

 

[Tomo]

Did not realise almost 75% of that list the players were signed and within a year the manager was sacked. Wonder what this list would be like if we adjusted for football transfer inflation. I assume the list would not look so bad.

Fans keep going on about bad signings but you can see why Lo Celso or even lazy Ndombele was vastly more suited to Poch than low block Jose/Nuno/Conte.

We could have elite scouting and signings but we will still have a messy Square pegs round holes team if we are switching football styles with each sacking.

I am hoping Scott Munn and Ange is the start of this club taking a more mature grown up approach to football. If the following season we end up with Ange sacked and another low block manager coming in then even if our recruitment is good half the players will be fucked and we will need to rebuild yet again.

 

[Cranston]

Just think how nice it will be to have a coach actually try and coach the players to improve them not just implement a rigid system and rant when it doesn't work.
Not saying all of our under performers will get better but I expect some of them at least to respond to some positivity and playing a better more attacking brand of football.

Of course. Conte was the absolute pits for that.

But we have three or four players that simply need to be moved on. They are technically not good enough. No amount of coaching or positive vibes is going to change that.

 

[theyearoftheone]

I have a question. Many on this forum are like "sign Tapsoba for 45 mil ore more!" What about Josip Šutalo for 20 mil...

He was great for me in FM before Real came knocking and I had to go and get Gvardiol instead

 

[NotThatTedHughes]

And then Summer 2018 was the unfathomable, unforgiveable betrayal of Poch, the club, and of sporting values generally. We're still in free fall from that.

I disagree.
It was the terrible transfer window of 2019, when we began spending again, that put us in free fall: N’Dombele, LoCelso, Sessegnon, Clarke and then Bergwijn. An absolutely disastrous year.

 

[Shotgunofmichalebrow]

Have people stopped saying we buying Tapsoba yet? Because that's not going to happen no way in hell.

 

[FightingIllini]

Of course. Conte was the absolute pits for that.

But we have three or four players that simply need to be moved on. They are technically not good enough. No amount of coaching or positive vibes is going to change that.

Technically not good enough, and also key pillars of a dressing room culture that has been absolutely rotten for years.

It's key to Ange having the playing attributes to institute his football ideas and also the personality attributes to institute his culture.

The thing with Ange is, it might fail, it might fail badly and quickly really, but the more we commit to his ideas, the better shape we're going to be in EVEN IF it all collapses by Christmas.

A fresher, younger, more technically sound team playing braver football leaves us a better future option set under whatever circumstances.

 

[NotThatTedHughes]

 

[CroSpurs]

CroSpurs rates him alot.

I do rate him. He’s good as Gvardiol, but he’s very good player.
He’ll probably end up in Leipzig or Dortmund for 20M, then after season or two, he’ll cost 70-80M.

 

[tommyboyspurs]

 

[Shotgunofmichalebrow]

I heard he wants off Brexit Island...

 

[Starks]

Are we meant to be surprised by this news?

 

[Macch]