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I really don't get this whole - who's got the biggest dick in football schtick.
The past is the past.
Its like me saying I'm harder than the 18 year old kid next door - because I would have been if I was still 18.
Football is all about now, the only history is this seasons league table.

Everything else is romance and dreams, in sporting terms.
Fair enough Mick, if that's how you feel.

To me what Spurs have achieved in the past is very important to me. Both the stuff I have witnessed at the ground(s) or on a screen, and indeed stuff I haven't witnessed such as the 1901 Cup Final(s), which for me are at the very core of our being. The league table of 1961 still gives me a very warm feeling, and contrariwise the hurt I suffered watching that Benfica game in 62 still gnaws away at me to this very day.

Indded, nothing that happens at St Mary's today, will come remotely close to being as important as that day in 78, where we played out a very handy draw that saw us promoted and Saints as Div 2 winners and left Brighton fuming at what was in their eyes a very 'convenient' result.

Had we not got promoted that season, Villa and Ardilles would never have happened, Hodd may well have left us and for better or worse where we are now would be very different.
 
Fair enough Mick, if that's how you feel.

To me what Spurs have achieved in the past is very important to me. Both the stuff I have witnessed at the ground(s) or on a screen, and indeed stuff I haven't witnessed such as the 1901 Cup Final(s), which for me are at the very core of our being. The league table of 1961 still gives me a very warm feeling, and contrariwise the hurt I suffered watching that Benfica game in 62 still gnaws away at me to this very day.

Indded, nothing that happens at St Mary's today, will come remotely close to being as important as that day in 78, where we played out a very handy draw that saw us promoted and Saints as Div 2 winners and left Brighton fuming at what was in their eyes a very 'convenient' result.

Had we not got promoted that season, Villa and Ardilles would never have happened, Hodd may well have left us and for better or worse where we are now would be very different.
The history of the club is important to me as well, to a degree - as it defines what we as a club have always tried to aspire to - as long as the management of the club choose to adhere to it. If the next owners choose to model us around the butchery of Estudiantes, then its not going to mean a damn thing though.
Having a marginally better or slightly worse trophy count means absolutely nothing to me when it comes to the outcome of the next FA Cup final though, I support 2 teams, as the old joke goes - Spurs and anyone playing Arse***
History is obviously a part of the club, and to you the Benfica result might mean something, in the same way as it did to the 13 year old Mick Cooper who left WHL in 71 in tears after witnessing the loss to the goons - but I would definitely say that the loss to them was far more bitterly recalled or recounted than losing to some Portuguese collective of hackers and cheats. Whilst it might have the same kudos points as todays CL, the reality is that the European cup back then was Texaco cup stuff in comparison, in the same way that the 61 squad would struggle in todays top flight amateur leagues.
As for flights of fancy about what happened back in 78 - who's to say that had we stayed down, we might not have been taken over by a conglomerate of venture capitalists who had invested heavily in the club and we had gone on to dominate the game in the way that Liverpool did around that time. "Ifs and buts" are worthless about what may or may not have happened back then. Not as worthless as what did happen, but just as irrelevant as to where we are going as a club in the future.
Its good that we have a past, but meaningless to wallow in it. Its like hanging on to a pair of old trousers that were your favourites before your waistline and fashion ran out of sight of them, you can hang them in your wardrobe as long as you like, but you'll never wear the damn things in public again.
 
The history of the club is important to me as well, to a degree - as it defines what we as a club have always tried to aspire to - as long as the management of the club choose to adhere to it. If the next owners choose to model us around the butchery of Estudiantes, then its not going to mean a damn thing though.
Having a marginally better or slightly worse trophy count means absolutely nothing to me when it comes to the outcome of the next FA Cup final though, I support 2 teams, as the old joke goes - Spurs and anyone playing Arse***
History is obviously a part of the club, and to you the Benfica result might mean something, in the same way as it did to the 13 year old Mick Cooper who left WHL in 71 in tears after witnessing the loss to the goons - but I would definitely say that the loss to them was far more bitterly recalled or recounted than losing to some Portuguese collective of hackers and cheats. Whilst it might have the same kudos points as todays CL, the reality is that the European cup back then was Texaco cup stuff in comparison, in the same way that the 61 squad would struggle in todays top flight amateur leagues.
As for flights of fancy about what happened back in 78 - who's to say that had we stayed down, we might not have been taken over by a conglomerate of venture capitalists who had invested heavily in the club and we had gone on to dominate the game in the way that Liverpool did around that time. "Ifs and buts" are worthless about what may or may not have happened back then. Not as worthless as what did happen, but just as irrelevant as to where we are going as a club in the future.
Its good that we have a past, but meaningless to wallow in it. Its like hanging on to a pair of old trousers that were your favourites before your waistline and fashion ran out of sight of them, you can hang them in your wardrobe as long as you like, but you'll never wear the damn things in public again.
An excellent perspective on the role of history. Well said, and great analogy.
 
We clearly won't agree on this, which is fine, but I hope you understand why so many on here won't be agreeing with your support of Woolwich in the final (which I gather you do, so fair enough).
he clearly does understand this as u point out. he just dont take kindly to being called cunt & mong for saying it. but good to see u still refrain from speaking up against this. as u were mr duke of selective speaking up of forum ethics.
 
Villa are an old club, full of heritage and bullshit: A lot like us sometimes except now that have one of the biggest bullshitters of all time coaching them and they think that he is super ferret when he isnt. At least we have a manager who is admired for his face to face player management.
bloody hell. what will it take for u to admit sherwoods done a good job at villa. he could beat the goons in the final 5-0 & u will just say it means nothing because he was dressed like a mong.
 
Sherwood definitely didn't endear himself to me at all when he was in charge at Spurs. Weirdly now that he's at Villa I'm finding him a lot more likeable. What he's done with the players there in a short space of time has been great for them. I don't begrudge them any success and I don't really see the logic that winning the cup will make Villa a bigger team than Spurs.

I'd like them to smash the fucking Gooners a fucking new back door in the final. Give them a proper fucking shoeing. I want to see fat men in red crying their eyes out all over the internet the next day. I'll buy any Villa fan I meet a pint after that. I'll have 5 goals from Benteke please Mr Tackticks Timmeh!
what the hell are u playing at! even if sherwood turned shay given in to a 25 goals per season striker, u have to pretend that was a bad decision. no sherwood praise allowed. jog on tim lover.
 
what the hell are u playing at! even if sherwood turned shay given in to a 25 goals per season striker, u have to pretend that was a bad decision. no sherwood praise allowed. jog on tim lover.
Can I have have kilo of what your on please?
 
Chadli, Eriksen and Kane should be nailed starters till the end of the season, because no other player of ours has been much of a threat this season.

Bentaleb and Mason sould be complemented by a more technical player in the centre of the park, someone with the ability to bring the ball forward, I'd say Lamela or Dembelé as both of them also provide coverage. Paulinho doesn't do much to win the ball back.

As for the back 4 : Rose - Vertonghen - Fazio - Anyotherpairoflegs

My prediction : 1 - 1
 
Can I have have kilo of what your on please?
sounds like u are already on some good stuff. the players say poch is a good man manager. what do u think they are going to say if asked? keep snorting it up mate
 
I really don't get this whole - who's got the biggest dick in football schtick.
The past is the past.
Its like me saying I'm harder than the 18 year old kid next door - because I would have been if I was still 18.
Football is all about now, the only history is this seasons league table.

Everything else is romance and dreams, in sporting terms.
I heard that Dion Dublin had the biggest
 
The history of the club is important to me as well, to a degree - as it defines what we as a club have always tried to aspire to - as long as the management of the club choose to adhere to it. If the next owners choose to model us around the butchery of Estudiantes, then its not going to mean a damn thing though.
Having a marginally better or slightly worse trophy count means absolutely nothing to me when it comes to the outcome of the next FA Cup final though, I support 2 teams, as the old joke goes - Spurs and anyone playing Arse***
History is obviously a part of the club, and to you the Benfica result might mean something, in the same way as it did to the 13 year old Mick Cooper who left WHL in 71 in tears after witnessing the loss to the goons - but I would definitely say that the loss to them was far more bitterly recalled or recounted than losing to some Portuguese collective of hackers and cheats. Whilst it might have the same kudos points as todays CL, the reality is that the European cup back then was Texaco cup stuff in comparison, in the same way that the 61 squad would struggle in todays top flight amateur leagues.
As for flights of fancy about what happened back in 78 - who's to say that had we stayed down, we might not have been taken over by a conglomerate of venture capitalists who had invested heavily in the club and we had gone on to dominate the game in the way that Liverpool did around that time. "Ifs and buts" are worthless about what may or may not have happened back then. Not as worthless as what did happen, but just as irrelevant as to where we are going as a club in the future.
Its good that we have a past, but meaningless to wallow in it. Its like hanging on to a pair of old trousers that were your favourites before your waistline and fashion ran out of sight of them, you can hang them in your wardrobe as long as you like, but you'll never wear the damn things in public again.
Fair enough Mick, we see football in different ways. That's no problem. C'est la vie ... comme ils disent :)

What I'm sure we can agree on is that we both want our team to win today :coys:
 
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