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This offensive BS has gone too far. It's just another attempt by Sky and big corporate money to comodify football further into a sterile American frenchised sport. Life is political whether you like it or not, from urban planning to the quality of air you breathe it's all political so to try to avoid politics with this 21st century trend of some immortal radical centrist truth is rediculous.

With that said I feel that waving an Israeli flag at a spurs match is not a political statement but a rather local affinity sign to spurs tradition, and even it was a political statement I can't see why it should be banned (I would have said the same if our affinity was to the Palestinians and I personally to wave national banners)
Wave an Israeli flag, or a Palestinian, or a red one or the one of the DRK...it's up to you and not up to the FA's cnuts to decide.
 
This offensive BS has gone too far. It's just another attempt by Sky and big corporate money to comodify football further into a sterile American frenchised sport. Life is political whether you like it or not, from urban planning to the quality of air you breathe it's all political so to try to avoid politics with this 21st century trend of some immortal radical centrist truth is rediculous.

With that said I feel that waving an Israeli flag at a spurs match is not a political statement but a rather local affinity sign to spurs tradition, and even it was a political statement I can't see why it should be banned (I would have said the same if our affinity was to the Palestinians and I personally to wave national banners)
Wave an Israeli flag, or a Palestinian, or a red one or the one of the DRK...it's up to you and not up to the FA's cnuts to decide.

What about a giant penis flag?
 
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...I feel that waving an Israeli flag at a spurs match is not a political statement but a rather local affinity sign to spurs tradition...

The state of Israel is nothing BUT politics and has been forever.

I agree with your first points about sports and politics. But you obviously know that waving an Israeli flag is offensive to a lot of people, including Spurs fans.
 
The state of Israel is nothing BUT politics and has been forever.

I agree with your first points about sports and politics. But you obviously know that waving an Israeli flag is offensive to a lot of people, including Spurs fans.
Quite. It's preposterous. I hate the way people conflate ethnicity and Judasim with Israel. For me there is a distinct "not in my name" element to Israeli politics, especially when it is painted as if Israeli politics are on behalf of all Jews and therefore represent them.

People who fly Israeli flags at football games are clearly too astonishingly stupid to realise that it doesn't remotely have anything to do with showing solidarity with a Jewish fan base or standing up to bigotry.
 
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Very true. Which is also why the Cyprus/Ireland-Spurs flags are different from all the Israel Spurs flags. (Not by definition, but I doubt that all the homemade Isreal Spurs flags are made/owned/waved by Israelis)
 
This offensive BS has gone too far. It's just another attempt by Sky and big corporate money to comodify football further into a sterile American frenchised sport. Life is political whether you like it or not, from urban planning to the quality of air you breathe it's all political so to try to avoid politics with this 21st century trend of some immortal radical centrist truth is rediculous.

With that said I feel that waving an Israeli flag at a spurs match is not a political statement but a rather local affinity sign to spurs tradition, and even it was a political statement I can't see why it should be banned (I would have said the same if our affinity was to the Palestinians and I personally to wave national banners)
Wave an Israeli flag, or a Palestinian, or a red one or the one of the DRK...it's up to you and not up to the FA's cnuts to decide.

Where has this assumption come from? I've been to many American sports games and wouldn't consider ANY of them as sterile. Seen a mighty, mighty ruck (worse than anything I saw at the Lane in the 80's - except maybe Paul Miller's testimonial game) at Philadelphia Eagles and some unique flags and banners at Bears games. Can drink in the stands no problem too.
 
Quite. It's preposterous. I hate the way people conflate ethnicity and Judasim with Israel. For me there is a distinct "not in my name" element to Israeli politics, especially when it is painted as if Israeli politics are in behalf of all Jews and therefore represent them.

People who fly Israeli flags at football games are clearly too astonishing stupid to realise that it doesn't remotely have anything to do with showing solidarity with a Jewish fan base or standing up to bigotry.

Yup - anti Zionism and anti Semitism do not have to be intrinsically linked.
 
Yup - anti Zionism and anti Semitism do not have to be intrinsically linked.

Agreed, allowing Israeli flags would confuse the two and allow West Ham and Chelsea fans to claim they are being "anti-establishment" like Anelka is trying to do.

No matter how preposterous and wrong that might be, it is what they would try to do.......just look how successfully they've made Spurs fans the bad guys in the Y-word debate.
 
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