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Harry won 1 fa cup in his entire life as a manager. Not sure we should ask anyone to learn from him.
Very good point except for the AVB part. He was rubbish.
You’ve completely misconstrued what I’ve said. Almost reversed it. I believe success comes from good methodology and working practices. Not from prioritising “entertainment”. I preferred AVB to Redknapp, very few people would have said I’m making the “entertainment” choice there.
Disagree, But but point is he’s won a shitload more than Redknapp in his career.
You said if you liked what you watched you'd be ok with 5th or 6th, which would we be worse league standings than last season. I think Poch's methodology and working practices are working out very well for him so far. if you don't believe they are good how have we achieved top 4 four years in a row and made a champions league final?
That’s not really comparable, getting by far the best teams in their respective leagues. Soon as AVB came to a decent league with Chelsea and us his limitation where there for everyone to see. If I ain’t a winning things I want entertainment, AVB provided neither.
I think his methods were great but I think he’s diluted them and lost some focus and our football has suffered the last two years accordingly. Our performances and results the last 5 months of last season were that of a mid table, badly coached team. If f they continue we won’t finish top 4 this season.
As I said above, (when I said I’m ambivalent not militant about him staying or going) if he could get his head out of his arse, stop fucking bitching every week, start making some tough, better decisions and get back some of that former focus, energy and intensity, I’ll be back on board. If not then let’s get someone in who can.
Except our spending does exist.
I think we’re like 17th in net spend over the past 10 years. Dont quote me on that. The stats are out there though.
At this moment in time I would say Javi Gracia would jump at the fucking chance
Talk about spooky...this just on BBC news....
Watford reappoint Sanchez Flores
Watford reappoint Quique Sanchez Flores as manager after announcing the exit of Javi Gracia.
www.bbc.com
Because the manager has instilled into his team that the domestics are worth fuck all, so that do or die tackle that might risk a twisted ankle doesn’t get made.......that header that risks a broken nose doesn’t get jumped for.
In the CL, the risks are worth it......our players don’t go all in for the Carabou. It’s just ego building to win it after all....
Jose and Pep aren’t morons though and play ( at least once upon a time for Jose) good football.
AVB walked into a ready made Porto team and won some stuff, then turned Chelsea and Spurs shit, got sacked twice then went to Russia where no one gives a shit.
If you enjoyed AVBs era over Redknapps because AVB had a big folder, then good for you
That’s one cup more than Poch.....shall we compare the value of players available when Harry won a trophy....
So now you are going to compare prices of players in those days to the ones now. Absolute donkey you are.
Ramos won more cups than Harry for us. Ramos also won more in his life than Harry. Lets bring back the 'cup winner'. Are you deliberately being stupid?
In those days? It was 2008 not 1964, and he won the cup with Portsmouth.
Ramos won more than Poch too by the way
Say......aren't you that geriatric, pervert psychopath from the other thread?
If that happens will you give some blame to Levy for appointing him?
To me it's just crazy to discuss Poch being sacked after all he's done for the club. How long do you give the new man before calling for his head?
I've never had a problem criticising Levy for what I think he deserves criticising for.
If Levy makes a bad appointment or even a good appointment but doesn't create the right environment for them to succeed I'll criticise him. As I did with AVB or Ramos.
I'm not exactly calling for Poch's head, or calling for it after 5 minutes or 5 bad results. Levy's made Pochettino the fifth highest paid manager in the world, and given him 5 year contracts and virtually complete autonomy to run the club how he wants it run. No DOF. He's been here for over 5 years. Pochettino has spent the last two years moaning about his working environment, whilst overseeing a downturn in performances and results, and was still doing it after signing three of Europe's hot young prospects this summer.
If he can't get us playing decent football agains by the end of this season, his sixth, having all the conditions he has in place, great training facilities, great stadium, shiny new players, great academy prospects etc, then I'm not going to have a problem with us trying to find a progressive guy who will try and isn't going to spend every press conference whining about it.