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Any news on him renewing his contract?
Reading between the lines, as much as I don't want it to be true, I think it's over.
Jan is one of those players who can be a shit as he wants, lack effort as much as he likes, talk shit in the press about not liking where he is being played, cost more mistakes than anyone else, but its only Dawson, Fazio and Dier who get dropped and slated.
Odd....he really isnt that good.
Odd....he really isnt that good.
i cant remember a spurs player iv had as little regard for. his attitude is so bad. he would walk out on us at the drop of a hat but the thing is, hes no berbatov modric or bale in terms of ability. no where fucking near it. he can either get with the program or fuck off. i dont care what he does to be honest.
You think he's worse than Sol?
to be honest i wasnt that big of a fan back then. i was much younger
He's a far worse defender
Sadly the best Vertonghen games for us was as a left back. Like him a lot tho.
The news is he said he didn't want to renew it. I'd be pretty shocked if he is still a spurs player in the summer. I think it's come to the end of the road.
I don't agree. There was a spell in his first season where he was unplayable at centre half. From his performance in the North London Derby, to scoring two goals at Anfield, brilliant assist and goal against Swansea. He seemed happy, well to be fair we were in contention for Champions League and playing with Gareth Bale, why wouldn't you be!?
He always enjoy a goal against the Swans.
HE SHOULD BE HAPPY PLAYING WITH OUR LORD AND SAVIOR
I would like to see him remain with us, I think he is a very good CB but not a great.
Just looking at the top teams in Prem and their CB's:
Cahill - Verts is technically better but Cahill has more desire and fights for his team. I rarely see Verts throwing his body in front of a ball like Cahill, for this reason and the impact on the teams mentality I'd pick Cahill.
Terry - the racist is better but given his age, may be next year, surely that cunts legs are going to pack up Mertesacker - Every CB is better than him
Kolscielny - Probably on par with him this season, previous seasons Vertonghen was better as Koshelny gave penalty's and got sent off almost every game.
Kompany - Think this fella is class but has been shit this year and Verts this year is far better
Demichelis - On par
Mangala - Verts is better
Smalling - Verts is better
Jones - Verts is better
Lovren - Verts is better
Toure - Verts is better
Skrtel - Probably on par????
Fonte - not as good
Alderweireld - on par???
Now compare him to his competition at Spurs:
Fazio - Verts is a better all-round player (Fazio better in the air)
Dier - This is a close call they have made the same mistakes probably as many as each other too but Verts experience shows when they are side by side (Verts is a master of the black arts of football)
Kaboul - There is nothing to debate here anymore
Chiriches - He is a not CB. Verts is better.
IMO He is a good CB and will get into any other team's back-line. I like him but wouldn't get overly emotional if he left as he is replaceable, the impact is not like loosing a King or Judas. But given the fact he might be worth £25-£30m (given Managala £30m - Louis £50m - Lovren £20m etc) and his stock will only be at this level for another year then it might be good business to sell. If we did sell I'd like to see us replace one experienced CB as a direct replacement and a young promising talent who could partner Dier in years to come.
Just looking at the top teams in Prem and their CB's:
Cahill - Verts is technically better but Cahill has more desire and fights for his team. I rarely see Verts throwing his body in front of a ball like Cahill, for this reason and the impact on the teams mentality I'd pick Cahill.
Terry - the racist is better but given his age, may be next year, surely that cunts legs are going to pack up Mertesacker - Every CB is better than him
Kolscielny - Probably on par with him this season, previous seasons Vertonghen was better as Koshelny gave penalty's and got sent off almost every game.
Kompany - Think this fella is class but has been shit this year and Verts this year is far better
Demichelis - On par
Mangala - Verts is better
Smalling - Verts is better
Jones - Verts is better
Lovren - Verts is better
Toure - Verts is better
Skrtel - Probably on par????
Fonte - not as good
Alderweireld - on par???
Now compare him to his competition at Spurs:
Fazio - Verts is a better all-round player (Fazio better in the air)
Dier - This is a close call they have made the same mistakes probably as many as each other too but Verts experience shows when they are side by side (Verts is a master of the black arts of football)
Kaboul - There is nothing to debate here anymore
Chiriches - He is a not CB. Verts is better.
IMO He is a good CB and will get into any other team's back-line. I like him but wouldn't get overly emotional if he left as he is replaceable, the impact is not like loosing a King or Judas. But given the fact he might be worth £25-£30m (given Managala £30m - Louis £50m - Lovren £20m etc) and his stock will only be at this level for another year then it might be good business to sell. If we did sell I'd like to see us replace one experienced CB as a direct replacement and a young promising talent who could partner Dier in years to come.
Which is more than can be said for you. Still I'm delighted that your first post on this forum is to take the piss and not one about Tottenham, congratulations and thanks for your wisdom and valuable contribution, you are going to love it hear.
We're never going to get that kind of money for him, the way the transfer market is there's no point trying to compare values realistically.
I reckon we'll get around £15m + for him if anyone wants him enough. A bit frustrating, I don't think he's been as good as I think he is/want him to be. In an argument for him, hardly playing in a settled back 4 makes it hard for any player, but despite the odd good performance I wouldn't be too upset to see him leave.
It's hard to judge a CB on their own because the system they play in and partner they play with can affect so much of their game.
Chelsea's pairing looks great, so long as Matic is able to break up play in front of them. Like we showed in the 5-3 game, if you can get Matic out of position and run at them, you can really do a number on them.
We've got a similar problem. Our pairings don't have a lot of time together, and don't communicate as well as they should, so if you can get through our midfield, you can create problems. How much of that is down to Jan I am not sure. He definitely has faults, but he's not a terrible player. If he goes, it wouldn't be great, but he isn't irreplaceable.
Chelsea's pairing looks great, so long as Matic is able to break up play in front of them. Like we showed in the 5-3 game, if you can get Matic out of position and run at them, you can really do a number on them.
We've got a similar problem. Our pairings don't have a lot of time together, and don't communicate as well as they should, so if you can get through our midfield, you can create problems. How much of that is down to Jan I am not sure. He definitely has faults, but he's not a terrible player. If he goes, it wouldn't be great, but he isn't irreplaceable.
He needs a leader in the back 4 with him because it's clear he is not one! Best season was when he was partnered with a no-nonsense leader like Dawson. Probably looked at his best this season when partnered with a similar player to Dawson, Fazio. Problem is Fazio is a catastrophe every other game sort of defender! Jan alongside Dier looks very weak IMO
