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What an absolute tosser this bloke is. Kyle Walker has had fifty times the career you did, you absolute knuckle-dragging cunt waffle.
It’s not even the result but whether Southgate has learned anything.
Maybe he’s learned something about the Rice/ Gallagher/ Bellingham balance. Doesn’t work? Success - he’s learned something. Could work with tweaks or against certain opposition? Success - he’s learned something.
I appreciate this sounds like an excuse for anything but the only thing that matters is the tournament performances.
Brazil defeat 'good experiment' for England - Southgate
England manager Gareth Southgate says his side's 1-0 defeat by Brazil was a "good experiment" and a chance to "find out" about the squad's more inexperienced players.
www.bbc.co.uk
So it was all part of your master plan was it Gareth?
Always has an excuse.
Fuck me, it's not like we need to gain experience losing games.
Again, you're putting words in people's mouths or drawing your own conclusions from something they never actually said. I never said anything about friendlies being pointless, or mere fitness exercises. Like any game of football, you want to win, you want to put in a good performance. But you can lose to a team like Brazil on any given day, regardless of their form. We didn't play well, but I don't think we were particularly bad either, especially when we had our better plays on the pitch for 60-70 minutes. There were obvious negatives, such as some dodgy defending and also not creating a lot on the whole. But there were also positives. Some good displays from the debutants Gordon and Mainoo, both who looked more than at home. We actually had a touch more possession against Brazil (54%) which would never have happened in previous England teams. Yes, we didn't move the ball quick enough and create a lot, but how refreshing it is to see us keep the ball instead of hoofing it.
Clearly, you have your own thoughts and opinions here and I have mine.
You do know that the changes are a ham-fisted tribute to 1966 and have NOTHING to do with LGBTQ yeh?
I'm reflecting on sentiments more than just your own at this point; so no, I'm not putting words in peoples mouths.
"They're just meaningless friendlies" is a common sentiment.
I didn't say you did.
(Although earlier you did fob off the Nations League results as insignificant so there's a trickle-down from that sentiment.)
A-G-A-I-N..... I'm not concerned with this game in isolation and literally said I don't care about the scoreline. (So; perhaps it's you projecting.....?)
..........What I do refuse to do tho' is bestow overt reverence upon Brazil just because of who they used to be. We had that from Conte after our CL ties against Milan and it's bollocks.
Oh come on; the bar has long since been raised from those days. (If not then Gary is failing even harder than suggested.)
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Thought Brazil looked the better team...and they had at least as many injuries as we did...I think they had 4/5 international debuts...
The fact is Southgate is and always will be a dick...
I think they edged the game and probably deserved the 1-0 win, but at no point did they play us off the park which you would think they did with the reactions from some people. They were allowed to kick our best player, Bellingham, out of the game. Also, Watkins just doesn't have the presence that Kane does. While it was far from great, I also didn't see anything to be majorly concerned about. Kane's ability to link play with those around him and Saka's pace would probably have made a significant difference last night. I know Brazil were also missing a number of players, but the only one's that would really have made a difference for them is Neymar and the goalkeepers. Casemiro's legs have gone, we see that at United most weeks in the Premier League. And Martinelli would have been on the bench anyway.
Can't agree with that last paragraph. We haven't improved DRAMATICALLY. If anything, we've plateaued.
We have the players to go up another level, but I really don't think we will under Southgate.
Question to anyone that thought the performance was ok 'cos we had a degree of control that prevented Brazil running riot.........
At 75min; why not try and change the game in an attacking sense and try to win the game in the last 15 mins? ........Afterall that's where the strength in our bench is.
...........And in a knockout game one either does that or consigns themselves to ET & possibly pens. As a manager; why not a seize a friendly as an opportunity to 'practice' for that scenario?
At 75min; why not try and change the game in an attacking sense and try to win the game in the last 15 mins? ........Afterall that's where the strength in our bench is.
...........And in a knockout game one either does that or consigns themselves to ET & possibly pens. As a manager; why not a seize a friendly as an opportunity to 'practice' for that scenario?
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I meant in terms of players.
From the last Euros we now have Bellingham who is a huge upgrade. Someone like Saka was a kid at that tournament and has come a long way since. Our on paper team is stronger than it was.
Oi.... Leave waffles alone.
Sick of them being given a bad name amidst modern insult parlance.
#RESPECT
Does Gareth Southgate have the instinct for making right England substitutions? | Jonathan Liew
The use of replacements is fundamental in tournaments and we still don’t know if Gareth Southgate is capable of doing it proactively
www.theguardian.com
“This is, after all, an England squad brimming with talent, particularly in attack. Harry Kane, Bukayo Saka, Jude Bellingham, Phil Foden, Grealish, Marcus Rashford, Cole Palmer, James Maddison, Anthony Gordon, Ivan Toney, Ollie Watkins, Jarrod Bowen. That’s just the front positions, and you can pick only four of them, maximum. Virtually any England XI you could muster leaves a galaxy of world‑class talent on the bench.”
They don't really care they just want an excuse to be angry at people they don't like. They should use that small d energy on things that require anger, like hospital waiting lists and food banks. Oh an Joe Barton talking about elite soccer to Kyle Walker is like a fist fight between Nicola Sturgeon and Tyson Fury...pointless.
Usual hyperbolic drivel from Mr Liew I see. Yes, we've got some great talent, but fuck me that 'world-class' label gets thrown around far too freely and cheaply.Does Gareth Southgate have the instinct for making right England substitutions? | Jonathan Liew
The use of replacements is fundamental in tournaments and we still don’t know if Gareth Southgate is capable of doing it proactively
“This is, after all, an England squad brimming with talent, particularly in attack. Harry Kane, Bukayo Saka, Jude Bellingham, Phil Foden, Grealish, Marcus Rashford, Cole Palmer, James Maddison, Anthony Gordon, Ivan Toney, Ollie Watkins, Jarrod Bowen. That’s just the front positions, and you can pick only four of them, maximum. Virtually any England XI you could muster leaves a galaxy of world‑class talent on the bench.”
Personally, I don't think we'd have any 'world class' talent on the bench, let alone a "galaxy" of it.
Liew is the best sports writer in the business imo.
3 or 4 world class players in that list - which is incredible but a long way from the journalist’s claim.