You've given me a headache. Head to head is redundant, so between us and Anderlecht it will be points, then GD and then goals scored.
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Given myself one. Right so if we lose, and they win we'll both be on 10 points.
If they win by 1 goal and we lose by 1 goal, the GD would be the same, but we'd still be first because we'd have scored 1 more goal than them (currently we've scored 2 more than them).
So we can afford to lose and still finish first if it all falls our way. There are some good teams (including Dortmund and Fiorentina) currently 2nd in their groups, so finishing first could result in some difficult games anyway.
Top of the group is the target, we avoid most of the CL dropouts by finishing top. I'm knackered, but I'll give you a better answer tomorrow.
The teams are ranked according to points (3 points for a win, 1 point for a draw, 0 points for a loss). If two or more teams are equal on points on completion of the group matches, the following criteria are applied in the order given to determine the rankings (regulations Article 16.01):[1]
- higher number of points obtained in the group matches played among the teams in question;
- superior goal difference from the group matches played among the teams in question;
- higher number of goals scored in the group matches played among the teams in question;
- higher number of goals scored away from home in the group matches played among the teams in question;
- if, after having applied criteria 1 to 4, teams still have an equal ranking, criteria 1 to 4 are reapplied exclusively to the matches between the teams in question to determine their final rankings. If this procedure does not lead to a decision, criteria 6 to 12 apply;
- superior goal difference in all group matches;
- higher number of goals scored in all group matches;
- higher number of away goals scored in all group matches;
- higher number of wins in all group matches;
- higher number of away wins in all group matches;
- lower disciplinary points total based only on yellow and red cards received in all group matches (red card = 3 points, yellow card = 1 point, expulsion for two yellow cards in one match = 3 points);
- higher club coefficient.
Sorry mate, what was that. Could you repeat that please?
Monaco have to win to have a chance, so they can't sit back all game. That should make it fairly open, which suits us.
Not that it matters but anybody know what time the team got back to the uk ?
I think I read yesterday they expected to land at 4am.
Whilst I will admit that my view of the game may have been slightly rosier than usual due to the above average consumption of merlot I woke this morning
to read the Daily Mail saying we 'huffed and puffed' all game.
Here's what I think I saw from a tactical perspective....
Firstly there was the team's training pace when in possession which switched rapidly to game pace when applying the press to get the ball back.
That change of pace happened too many times for it not to have been a deliberate tactic.
Then there was the higher than normal high line therebye compressing the pitch which meant less runnin' abaht.
Thirdly there was the use of the long ball out of defense especially from Toby and,
lastly there was Alli who got through alot of work up front (as he did against the pikeys) therebye relieving Harry of some of the workload.
So I reckon that I saw was a deliberate set of tactics designed (by Poch) to reduce the energy expended by the players...and it worked!
Audere est facere and all that.
p.s. the chavs are already shitting themselves....
to read the Daily Mail saying we 'huffed and puffed' all game.
Here's what I think I saw from a tactical perspective....
Firstly there was the team's training pace when in possession which switched rapidly to game pace when applying the press to get the ball back.
That change of pace happened too many times for it not to have been a deliberate tactic.
Then there was the higher than normal high line therebye compressing the pitch which meant less runnin' abaht.
Thirdly there was the use of the long ball out of defense especially from Toby and,
lastly there was Alli who got through alot of work up front (as he did against the pikeys) therebye relieving Harry of some of the workload.
So I reckon that I saw was a deliberate set of tactics designed (by Poch) to reduce the energy expended by the players...and it worked!
Audere est facere and all that.
p.s. the chavs are already shitting themselves....
I agree although it doesn't really matter weather its deliberate play. The team is playing as one, with confidence and the ability to adjust. Possibly, VW submitted the findings for The Mail? Lets hope we are strong for Sunday.
we could play porto.
then we will see who is more important to u?
the part time fishermen or the glorious spurs.
are u a Portuenses or a worthy cock?
a proud lillywhite or a come back hulk whiner.
will your affair with a porto forum be exposed.
u cheating tripeiros.
id fancy our chances with casillas the clown in goal.
Whether you come top or 2nd you still have equal chance of playing a CL team. 12 group winners and best 4 3rd place teams are seeded. 12 runners up and worst 4 3rd place teams unseeded.
Knowing our luck we'll win the group and get the toughest draw (Dortmund, I'm looking at you to win the next game yeah)
Pundits seem to be saying how we struggled to break them down, that we were very ordinary in the first half, that we huffed and puffed...
We were away from home in a European game, not wanting to over-exert anyone. You don't just go balls out and risk shipping a couple. It was a classic away performance - control the game in a defensive manner for 60 minutes, go get a goal, shut up shop. We didn't need to win 4-3, we needed a boring ordinary game where we won 1-0, and it's exactly what we achieved.
This is what using tactics looks like - actually taking into account the opposition, the venue and the situation. Home to WHU - high press defence, high intensity offence throughout. Away to Qarabag - stingy defence, defensive possession, hold the game, take a lead mid-2nd half.
We were away from home in a European game, not wanting to over-exert anyone. You don't just go balls out and risk shipping a couple. It was a classic away performance - control the game in a defensive manner for 60 minutes, go get a goal, shut up shop. We didn't need to win 4-3, we needed a boring ordinary game where we won 1-0, and it's exactly what we achieved.
This is what using tactics looks like - actually taking into account the opposition, the venue and the situation. Home to WHU - high press defence, high intensity offence throughout. Away to Qarabag - stingy defence, defensive possession, hold the game, take a lead mid-2nd half.
I was speaking with my odd couple best friend the other day. He was saying there was a chance that we could be facing Woolwich in the next stage of the EL should they drop down.
Any idea if that is right?
You are an evil evil little man
Pundits are fucking morons. Most of them come from a culture where they'd have a pint after training.
No team would have gone there and had an easy game
I always prefer our team being under appreciated, brings far less pressure.
That's incorrect. Teams from the same country cannot draw each other until the quarters.
I would take them in the quarters, semis or the final. I want us to be the team to knock them clean out of Europe this year. I want revenge for the league cup. I hope they don't fuck it up before we face them on the way to lifting the European cup.
Last 16 I thought all restrictions are removed....so the round after this one coming up. We could also face Anderlecht again were they to progress.