I think that's what Archway based their 2nd appeal on - that the plans had been revised in secret, and I think that's what we won. 61,000 - you heard it here first.
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The Secretary of State confirmed in the court case that no new planning application would be necessary - this was key to the case as the CPO was only awarded on the basis of the current planning consent.
I don't think these two can co-exist. It's either quick + temporary home or slow + stay put.
I also don't think staying put is particularly viable, they club have said as much. The original plans which included working around the existing are nearly 10 years old and will have moved on considerably in that time. It makes absolute sense to demolish all and build from scratch, although it's not the best fit for a lot of supporters.
Personally I'd rather the club got the ground right at the expense of a season's travelling than compromise the stadium which should be good for 100 years.
I'd also love to know the demographic of the attending Spurs fans. What proportion actually live locally? I genuinely don't know if it's 70% or 30%.
Depends how locally you mean. Within 2-3 miles, probably < 5%. Within 10 miles, I dunno, maybe 30-50% ish.
As long as we don't have giant flag wavers when we score a goal I'll be happy
Think of it this way then. If you're saying that at least half of all WHL supporters travel more than 10 miles to get the games, year-in year-out, why can't the other half travel for one single season? It could be as much of a benefit as a hindrance, on balance of supporter base.
I do find it a bit annoying when people complain about the idea of travelling to games for one single season, as if it's some major hardship, when that's what tons of regulars do all the time. My entire life of supporting Spurs has involved several hours journey and a bunch of cash in travel costs.
Now don't get me wrong, I hate the idea of having our home games anywhere but Tottenham and agree it would be ideal not to have to do that, but the travel expense argument just doesn't stack up for me.
At the moment, travel time and cost are roughly correlated to distance from the ground. So fans in Maidstone, Cambridge, MK, Reading, will all have roughly the same burden. Fans in Cheshunt, Barnet, Loughton - similar burden to one another. Draw a circle round Tottenham with radius of x miles, and all the fans living on that circle are in roughly the same situation, and the bigger that circle gets, the fewer Spurs fans there are. (Yes this ignores the distorting effect of London, but it's broadly true.)
Now consider moving the ground to MK. Suddenly, the many thousands of fans living within 10-15 miles of Tottenham are facing a big journey to get to matches, while the lucky few who live in and around MK have struck gold. As for the poor fans in Kent/Sussex who are used to already making a big journey to the Lane - they might as well forget it if we go to MK.
Ultimately it comes down to the fact that our match-going fanbase is concentrated mainly around north east London, Herts and Essex - and most of them will be shafted by us moving to MK. The average travel distance to matches would increase drastically, and loads of people suddenly wouldn't be able to afford to go to every match any more.
...and that's why I'd love to actually know the demographic of those supporters. If most are in Herts/Beds/Bucks etc then getting to MK isn't that big of a deal, if they live South of London then it is.
However, as we well know, everyone in Kent supports Man Utd, so your argument falls down right there.
However, as we well know, everyone in Kent supports Man Utd, so your argument falls down right there.
To get to MK for me I would have to get a train into Kings Cross, go to Euston and get the train back out to MK.
It is a no from me.
Driving is much easier though.
Knowing our luck , the price of steel with sky rocket & levy will decide to build a huge steelworks instead
I know this is likely in jest, but it's not true just so we're all aware.
Majority of people here support a London club, mainly Woolwich, Tottenham, West Ham and Chelsea.
It is very well known that everyone in Kent supports United.
You cannot argue with facts.
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As you know I second that Benny! As Kent is football neutral ground I must admit it is pretty open I even know a load of Leeds fans, but there is a southern skew
That's because Leeds castle is in Kent, I think.
Nah you'd change at Manchester, direct line there to MK.
Takes longer.
Those bastards!
I'm a Part time Man of Kent, The majority of people I know support London Clubs. Although I do know one Looney Northerner who supports Sheffield Wednesday....
Your mum takes longer