Yes probably but at least Hobby tries, Winks strolls around like he couldn’t care less. Hobby is a limited player but I can’t fault his commitment,Winks is the opposite
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They both need to go. I could careless if they try. I'd rather Watch N'dombele not giving a fuck at least he is not scared of a football and the end result is the same. ...we still lose.
Holtby was supposingly the better player in between two...
Honest question... what particular game did it all 'go wrong' for him? ...or was it 'just' that piece he did to the Papers??
'cos to be honest... the first coupla months when he broke into the team, I genuinely had high hopes...
The goal against West Ham in that dramatic 3-2 win... the midfield MASTERCLASS against Real Madrid at Wembley... was that all just a fluke...? Beginner's luck?
He did a cracking interview on Football Focus, he loves the club, he has the 'looks' and I honestly thought he was gonna be our Beckham!!
OK... maybe that's a bit much ... but certainly the next Ryan Mason we never got to realise...
...now it's on poor Ollie Skipp to be the 'Harry Winks' we never knew we had!
Was it just Poch who brought out the best in him... and it's been downhill ever since>> or was he never that good in the first place, and spent the first season flattering to deceive?
Answers on a Postcard, please!
'cos to be honest... the first coupla months when he broke into the team, I genuinely had high hopes...
The goal against West Ham in that dramatic 3-2 win... the midfield MASTERCLASS against Real Madrid at Wembley... was that all just a fluke...? Beginner's luck?
He did a cracking interview on Football Focus, he loves the club, he has the 'looks' and I honestly thought he was gonna be our Beckham!!
OK... maybe that's a bit much ... but certainly the next Ryan Mason we never got to realise...
...now it's on poor Ollie Skipp to be the 'Harry Winks' we never knew we had!
Was it just Poch who brought out the best in him... and it's been downhill ever since>> or was he never that good in the first place, and spent the first season flattering to deceive?
Answers on a Postcard, please!
Have you got a link to that "piece in the papers?"
Actually, my bad... it wasn't the papers as such; 'just' Goal.com & Sky... on 2 separate occasions.
Winks concerned by lack of playing time at Spurs after stellar strike in win over Wycombe | Goal.com
Harry Winks has spoken of his frustration at a lack of regular playing time at Tottenham.
www.goal.com
Harry Winks: Tottenham players meant to be competing for places but lack of game-time is 'tough'
Harry Winks says he is not getting enough game-time to show his best for Tottenham after being part of the second string that lost at Vitesse Arnhem on Thursday night; Spurs visit West Ham next in the Premier League live on Sky Sports Super Sunday
TBH, I never saw the problem with him voicing his frustrations... he's as critical of himself as anyone else... and certainly doesn't deserve some of the 'Rat Cunt Wage Thief' vitriol he gets on here...
No he's not the most gifted player we've ever had... but neither were Homegrown/Spurs fans David Howells or Vinny Samways... they got 'groans' every time they mis-placed a sideways pass, but never the level of abuse Winks does...
I just wish he was better at what he did, 'cos he shoulda had every chance to be adored by the Spurs fans if only he was as good as we really wanted him to be!
Never had any hopes from even the beginning. He got a honeymoon for a few years because he was young , local and most fans are rose tinted.
He was mediocre at best with a 1/10 good game. Playing with superior players 3/4 years ago made him look better.
Always offered so little and a major reason he is still here states how incompetently the club is run.
This. Just this.
Personally I’ve never seen much in him anyway, but I think it was the two ankle injuries towards the end of the 17/18 season that did the damage rather than a specific game. He had two spells out in quick succession and seemed to lose any confidence he had. He used to be more attacking minded and had a bit of vision for a pass, but he seems to have lost those now.
The other thing to factor in is the team factor. We’ve seen before how mediocre players can raise their game when the whole team are playing well and getting the results. That’s where performances like Madrid come in or Lucas against Ajax. Take away that overall team unity and confidence and you’re left with players playing at their own normal level.
Winks is just not good enough for us in my view. He‘s more suited to a team in the lower half or the premiership or even the championship and should be moved on as quickly as possible.
Absolute cunt of a player
I think the likes of Mark Dennis, John Terry, Gavin Maguire and Vinnie Jones slightly pip him to that title... but you keep going with your agenda mate... knock yourself out...
No, please do!!!
Did a good job today against a team who played to our strengths. Might be worth noting pretty much everyone we know is probably not good enough had a 'good' game today.
We played a championship side - but yes most did a job so fair dos
Still can’t tackle for shit though
