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This is all seeming a bit pathetic, I know..
What do we have to cry and bitch about?
- Yid chanting, our clubs hands are tied until court is over.
- Stubhub, fair enough. But is it worth discussing a protest?
- Transfer policy. Right, okay. Lets get into this a bit. We average about say 26 home games a year, most sell out, so for arguments sake we'll make it £40 x 36,000. Makes, 1,440,000 x 26 = £37,440,00.
Chuck in £40,000,000 more for TV rights and we're left with £80,000,000.
Once you chuck in maybe £5,000,000 for merchandise per year, then £20,000,000 for sponsorships.
We have an income of possibly £105,000,000 a year.
Once you take out wages you are left with very little, if anything i'd say we are losing money per year.
I was frankly amazed we re invested the Bale money, I thought it would of been earmarked for the new stadium.
I would say im Pro ENIC yes, but i've just seen the shit that other owners have caused and im glad we are sitting a few points off fourth and still in the Europa league. We're coming accoss like Spoilt cunts that need a few minutes (Seasons) on the naughty step before we behave.
Do you mean paying for the seat but not actually turning up? I doubt the club would care very much, they still get the money.
Boycotting games completely is the best way to go about it. Oh, and fans protest outside of the ground. Also, silent protests have been done on the continent (one was by Lazio Ultras) whereby the fans don't sing, cheer or jeer the opposition, but stand in silence to prove a point.
The reality is that a lot of these measures are only effective if the supporters are united and pull in the same direction. Half-hearted protests get nowhere.
Boycotting games completely is the best way to go about it. Oh, and fans protest outside of the ground. Also, silent protests have been done on the continent (one was by Lazio Ultras) whereby the fans don't sing, cheer or jeer the opposition, but stand in silence to prove a point.
The reality is that a lot of these measures are only effective if the supporters are united and pull in the same direction. Half-hearted protests get nowhere.
Get all 21,000 (Or however many there is) to not attend a game that is live on sky.
Feasible, probably not as they will all flog them on stubhub :gallas:
Feasible, probably not as they will all flog them on stubhub :gallas:
God help Spurs if an American bought the club.
I started my own personal protest at the start of last season (2012-2013) when i decided £50 was my cut-off point for tickets. I have only attended two Cat A games in that time (Chelsea this year - but only as it was part of a 4 game package).
My Cat As have been replaced with Cat 1882s - 10% of the cost but 10X the fun.
My Cat As have been replaced with Cat 1882s - 10% of the cost but 10X the fun.
If there was a protest what is the aim?
Is it to simply remove Stub-Hub? If so, then absolutely, without question. Otherwise, what? Some fans don't sing, others bitch and moan....should we protest against them?
Any kind of protest during a game (turning back, wearing masks - strange one, that, or total silence) only fails to support the team, in my opinion.
All forms of protest have to have a goal. I'm not sure, anything other than the removal of Stub-Hub, is worthy of protesting.
Is it to simply remove Stub-Hub? If so, then absolutely, without question. Otherwise, what? Some fans don't sing, others bitch and moan....should we protest against them?
Any kind of protest during a game (turning back, wearing masks - strange one, that, or total silence) only fails to support the team, in my opinion.
All forms of protest have to have a goal. I'm not sure, anything other than the removal of Stub-Hub, is worthy of protesting.
More than any other thing recently, whats most pissed me off was the clubs meagre submission in the reduced ticket allocation at the shithole. An absolute sell out of the fans at the hands of our closest and bitterest rivals too. At the very, very least the club should have demanded that the 4000 extra tickets we were entitled to, yes entitled to as written in the FA rules, were left unsold and not handed over to the home team. A complete and utter disgraceful showing by the board of Tottenham Hotspur, and thats my honest opinion.
It would be epic....but as was proven with the way the Anti Stratford protesters were treated, and how many fans were up for leaving in order to "take the club to the next level", our fanbase is fucked beyond all repair.
The "Sheik" poll has shown what a large number of us prioritise these days.
Silent sitting down but with billions in the bank and trophies is appealing to the majority.
The others dont count.
The "Sheik" poll has shown what a large number of us prioritise these days.
Silent sitting down but with billions in the bank and trophies is appealing to the majority.
The others dont count.
Unless the Bayern board decide to take over Spurs I don't see anything short of a mass protest throughout the entire stadium working. When Newcastle fans didn't show up for a game in numbers what came of it? Other than a tiny bit of publicity on the day - nothing else.
The fan base is so fractured I don't know what the solution would be, you would need an entire stand allocated to specific individuals to get the atmosphere back, like a permanent stand for season ticket holders interested in the 1882 movement only.
Unless Spurs can get guaranteed ticket sell-outs from the same people for that one stand how's that going to happen? Perhaps the club need to poll all season-ticket holders who want to sing and shift their seats to the north or south stand permanently. If there's 21000 season ticket holders a third of those need to be willing to move. Otherwise they need to do this for the single tier when the new stadium is built but I feel that's going to be too late.
I know Woolwich season-ticket 'fans' - basically fair-weather supporters. This is what Levy is aiming for and wants unfortunately. Less hassle over more atmosphere.
The fan base is so fractured I don't know what the solution would be, you would need an entire stand allocated to specific individuals to get the atmosphere back, like a permanent stand for season ticket holders interested in the 1882 movement only.
Unless Spurs can get guaranteed ticket sell-outs from the same people for that one stand how's that going to happen? Perhaps the club need to poll all season-ticket holders who want to sing and shift their seats to the north or south stand permanently. If there's 21000 season ticket holders a third of those need to be willing to move. Otherwise they need to do this for the single tier when the new stadium is built but I feel that's going to be too late.
I know Woolwich season-ticket 'fans' - basically fair-weather supporters. This is what Levy is aiming for and wants unfortunately. Less hassle over more atmosphere.
Don't think this would do much to change their minds. Seems that the English football establishment has made this their overarching goal.
Yes the introduction of cheerleaders.
I am for that!!
Alright you cunts. I've set the deal up. I'm buying Spurs in a Glazer-style leveraged buy-out. I'm putting up $500, they're putting up the remaining 650m pounds, and then we're going to transfer all of that debt to Spurs' balance sheet. We gotta keep up with the Joneses.
Instead of the Star Wars intro we're going to be piping in the Star Spangled Banner over the audio systems. But we're going to let you have your drum back, we're giving stubhub the boot, and we're going to trial a safe standing section of the stadium.
Instead of the Star Wars intro we're going to be piping in the Star Spangled Banner over the audio systems. But we're going to let you have your drum back, we're giving stubhub the boot, and we're going to trial a safe standing section of the stadium.
Another day, another poll. Sorry.
In all my years as a Spurs fan this is the closest and at the same time the farthest that I have felt from the club that I love. It's the closest in that I'm feeling the collective pain and disillusionment of my fellow fans, not with the players but in what the club is becoming. Farthest in that I just don't have a clue anymore where we are going and how we're going to get there.
There's a fair bit of talk about what needs to change, what we'd like to see happen and loads of finger pointing. I've said elsewhere that in the current climate it would take a significant action to actually make the powers that be sit up and take notice (no I'm not planning on streaking on Sundays game, so don't get excited). As we know those powers couldn't give two-hoots about any grumbling on the internet or even in the stands.
Even worse is us supporters and the general apathy in this day and age to want to make a difference (I'm guilty). Whilst TFC (1882), the Supporters Trust and other amicable groups are doing their damnest most fans will generally be hoping that someone else will take the reins and sort it out. However when we want to be we can be the most vocal and passionate on the internet shouting at people we don't even know.
So thinking about it…(clearly the Tube strikes have got me going) if a hypothetical call was made to not show up to you seat for a game in protest…would you?
Ok there's going to be a lot of commentary on this. I appreciate that.
For example, would the club or the media even care? It would never work unless it was a whole block? If we protested outside would we be allowed to bring a drum? Would there be bacon sandwiches?
What I'm more interested in is whether us as supporters feel that we have reached a tipping point when it's actually time to stop typing and to be heard or are we blowing this all out of proportion and actually it's just us being Spursy and getting carried away.
In all my years as a Spurs fan this is the closest and at the same time the farthest that I have felt from the club that I love. It's the closest in that I'm feeling the collective pain and disillusionment of my fellow fans, not with the players but in what the club is becoming. Farthest in that I just don't have a clue anymore where we are going and how we're going to get there.
There's a fair bit of talk about what needs to change, what we'd like to see happen and loads of finger pointing. I've said elsewhere that in the current climate it would take a significant action to actually make the powers that be sit up and take notice (no I'm not planning on streaking on Sundays game, so don't get excited). As we know those powers couldn't give two-hoots about any grumbling on the internet or even in the stands.
Even worse is us supporters and the general apathy in this day and age to want to make a difference (I'm guilty). Whilst TFC (1882), the Supporters Trust and other amicable groups are doing their damnest most fans will generally be hoping that someone else will take the reins and sort it out. However when we want to be we can be the most vocal and passionate on the internet shouting at people we don't even know.
So thinking about it…(clearly the Tube strikes have got me going) if a hypothetical call was made to not show up to you seat for a game in protest…would you?
Ok there's going to be a lot of commentary on this. I appreciate that.
For example, would the club or the media even care? It would never work unless it was a whole block? If we protested outside would we be allowed to bring a drum? Would there be bacon sandwiches?
What I'm more interested in is whether us as supporters feel that we have reached a tipping point when it's actually time to stop typing and to be heard or are we blowing this all out of proportion and actually it's just us being Spursy and getting carried away.