When does the cavalry arrive? - Gazza, Foyth, Sanchez, Sess, Lo Celso, Japhet Tanganganganga

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The cumulative effect of his multiple hamstring injuries might be too much. Still glides around the pitch but he's not as impactful as he once was, for some reason.

He's only 23, we shouldn't dump him yet.


As with Harry, Dier and Big Vic and our medical team needs overhauling too
 
I think we just have to bite the bullet and drop all the trouble makers. A bit like what happened when he first took over with Lennon, Ade, BAE and so on....

When is Lo Celso, Sessegnon and Foyth back. What is the team like with committed players only, and is it actually good enough?


.........Kane.
Son...Alli....Moura
......Sissoko..Ndombele
Sess..Sanchez...Foyth...KWP
.......Gazza

Is that team god enough to see us through? Maybe get a CB in Jan to last till summer?

Can young Japhet do a job? He looked good this summer?

If Poch is gonna get sacked he may as well play players that will fight for him
 
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Dele Alli is done. Not a single decent performance since 2017/18 season.

If in doubt, refer to his recent performances against lowly Colchester
 
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I don't think Poch has the balls/heart to drop players that he "made". Loyalty seems to be such a key factor in his philosophy and he expects the same loyalty from the players that he shows them.

I don't think he is going to drop players like Christian, Jan and Toby because I think that he legitimately still thinks that they will show up to training one day with new contracts and everything will be hunkey dory.

He needs to show about of ruthlessness and bench wantaways and trouble makers. But I don't think he has it in him to do it to "his boys".
 
I’ve been watching our defence more intently the last few games and I think Aurier, Rose and Vert should be dropped, Vert being the key person. I think he’s really starting to look his age these days. The bigger guys lose their pace quicker and with the high line we employ, pace is essential. I don’t think Alderweireld is playing to the level he can but I think he should be starting. From what I’ve heard, he is one of the quieter people in the dressing room and he seems to just get on with it. Sanchez needs to be starting CB. I can tell his confidence must be low, hence why Poch probably isn’t playing him, but the only way to fix that is to get him playing games. Davies in for Rose is an easy one. Rose is a better LB but the Welsh wizard always gives it his all and we need a team with positive players now. RB is harder; boy oh boy I wish we had Trippier now, what a terrible decision that is turning out to be. KWP should be coming in for Aurier when he’s back but he’s got a lot to learn and I don’t think is a starter at this time but we have no one else I can trust. Aurier is a loose cannon. Key area to fix in January.

I think at this point we just need to stop shipping goals. You can’t win anything with a bad defence so let’s get the basics working again.

COYS
 
Rose has been good and at least put effort in. Doesn't deserve to be dropped.

He's been decent AT TIMES... Been poor at others. It's only logical to question where his head is at given his track record and how the summer played out for him.

We've got a replacement (Sess) to get up to speed and an able stand-in (Ben) for the interim.
 
Twitter isn't the cause of the problem mate dissenting voices have always been around when teams go to shit like we have, all social media has done is given us more access to disent direct with player's and media alike.

It's an absolute menace in terms of false 'diagnosis' and perpetuating bullshit though.
 
How's Dembele doing over in China....could do with him back 😂 honestly not been the same team since he went. Our drop in form since he left highlights how important he was for us.
 
Dele Alli is done. Not a single decent performance since 2017/18 season.

If in doubt, refer to his recent performances against lowly Colchester and Munich.

He was actually decent in the first half against Munich, too many silly flicks (as usual) but certainly a willingness to play.

Then, when the floodgates opened in the second half his head dropped. It's a mentality thing. Is he fully focused on football? Who knows really but evidence points to the contrary.
 
He was actually decent in the first half against Munich, too many silly flicks (as usual) but certainly a willingness to play.

Then, when the floodgates opened in the second half his head dropped. It's a mentality thing. Is he fully focused on football? Who knows really but evidence points to the contrary.
Exactly silly flicks and back heels, either he is stubborn to learn or not coached properly. Someone should tell him stop these. I thought he had the ability to play and run with the ball.
 
Dele and Dier are 2 players who I think can turn it around. It’s unfair to judge them as they are both too far off the pace.

I made a light-hearted comment yesterday about dropping down in the Europa League for the group stages, but I'm wondering if it wouldn't bear a longer term benefit afterall.

Alongside the FA Cup, it would suddenly create a bit more game-time for such guys to get over the rut they're currently in.... Dele, Dier, Sanchez, Foyth, Skipp, KWP, Sessengon, Lo Celso, Tanganga, Parrot (+ bring Clarke back in January) could all clock up a bit more game-time than if we're stuck in this constant pressure cycle of every subsequent game being a season-saving 'must win'. As Saturday showed with Dier, dropping such individuals into the proverbial fire with the remit of 'save us/be the difference maker' just isn't realistic. Who knows we may even win a trophy if we can arrest our slide in form and it would also mean a bunch of the other players would be more fresh for EPL duty with a view to turning round our league form; further alleviating pressure in the league if we can be seen to be tangibly building towards CL2021 inclusion in another competition (i.e. EL).

Obv. I'm just throwing shit at the wall here, but to scrape top four (which I don't think it out of the question yet given how suspect all the other so called challengers also look) and bag a trophy this season would be quite the turnaround and not entirely unfeasible if things clicked.

I'm not sold on the idea that 8 or 9 of our typical starting XI have downed tools; more that a few 'bad apples' are spoiling and rubbing off on the proverbial bunch.
 
I’ve been watching our defence more intently the last few games and I think Aurier, Rose and Vert should be dropped, Vert being the key person. I think he’s really starting to look his age these days. The bigger guys lose their pace quicker and with the high line we employ, pace is essential. I don’t think Alderweireld is playing to the level he can but I think he should be starting. From what I’ve heard, he is one of the quieter people in the dressing room and he seems to just get on with it. Sanchez needs to be starting CB. I can tell his confidence must be low, hence why Poch probably isn’t playing him, but the only way to fix that is to get him playing games. Davies in for Rose is an easy one. Rose is a better LB but the Welsh wizard always gives it his all and we need a team with positive players now. RB is harder; boy oh boy I wish we had Trippier now, what a terrible decision that is turning out to be. KWP should be coming in for Aurier when he’s back but he’s got a lot to learn and I don’t think is a starter at this time but we have no one else I can trust. Aurier is a loose cannon. Key area to fix in January.

I think at this point we just need to stop shipping goals. You can’t win anything with a bad defence so let’s get the basics working again.

COYS

Personally thought Verts hasn’t been to bad, yeh not quick but never has been. It’s fine to have one slow CB as long as the other is quick and Toby has lost his pace as well as Rose for that matter.

I am more worried about Rose, Toby and Aurier than Verts rights now.
 
Drop them for who though? We don't exactly have a world class bench to cherry pick from... Plus all the injuries.
Yeah fair points, but can they be worse than what we are seeing?

Maybe it would help squad harmony if the want always were removed from the match day squad? Lo celso and sess can come in, Eriksen can be replaced by lamela or moura. Sanchez in at the back, Foyth needs more minutes.

I can stomach defeats if I see a team developing and wanting to put a shift in. Tuesday was a disgrace and yesterday was an embarrassment.
 
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