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Nzonzi's a fucking little dirty thug and I so wanted him to get his marching orders. Lee Mason was painfully incompetent.
Clean sheet
I think we watched a different game. We already established that we see things differently.
best moment of the game for me was Dembele's tackle and then he quickly released the ball for Bale to go on a lengthy run and then superb bending cross to Adebayor... beautiful movement, just lacking a goal at the end.
Adebayor does get all over the pitch, and often will be way back defending, trying to get the ball. His movement is good, but he seems to have lost his first touch. He just isn't the prolific striker we need. What we are lacking is someone who will get 18 PL goals a season.
Defoe isn't a player to come back and get the ball. For me he is best on the break, keeping up with the likes of Bale and Lennon, or running on to balls. Or just whacking the ball from outside the box when he sees the slightest gap between defenders. He isn't a johnny on the spot to score tap ins, hassle defenders etc
Imagine this team with Berbatov and Keane in that amazing season they had... we would run tings.
There was a reason Adebayor was the price he was and why other teams weren't interested, it wasn't just his salary. He is clearly a great player, but he isn't the 20 goals a season striker that most bigs clubs desire, he is more of a playmaker. Added to this he only seems to get really fired up and playing with passion for bigger games. He had a point to prove against Woolwich and until he got sent off him and Defoe looked good together.
I'm not slagging either player off, but just saying that what I think we need is a third option, someone strong and powerful who can really hassle players in the box. Think Sandro, but as with mad dribble skills and the ability to score goals tap ins, headers and the occasional worldy, just by being strong and in the right position.
Adebayor does get all over the pitch, and often will be way back defending, trying to get the ball. His movement is good, but he seems to have lost his first touch. He just isn't the prolific striker we need. What we are lacking is someone who will get 18 PL goals a season.
Defoe isn't a player to come back and get the ball. For me he is best on the break, keeping up with the likes of Bale and Lennon, or running on to balls. Or just whacking the ball from outside the box when he sees the slightest gap between defenders. He isn't a johnny on the spot to score tap ins, hassle defenders etc
Imagine this team with Berbatov and Keane in that amazing season they had... we would run tings.
There was a reason Adebayor was the price he was and why other teams weren't interested, it wasn't just his salary. He is clearly a great player, but he isn't the 20 goals a season striker that most bigs clubs desire, he is more of a playmaker. Added to this he only seems to get really fired up and playing with passion for bigger games. He had a point to prove against Woolwich and until he got sent off him and Defoe looked good together.
I'm not slagging either player off, but just saying that what I think we need is a third option, someone strong and powerful who can really hassle players in the box. Think Sandro, but as with mad dribble skills and the ability to score goals tap ins, headers and the occasional worldy, just by being strong and in the right position.
Fuck...that's rare.
It's frustrating that an established mid-table club such as them showed hardly any intention of trying to win the match. The time wasting from ten minutes in was a good indication of that. I don't think we played badly, but the ref had a generally poor game. There wasn't much consistency with what he'd give and he didn't give the game a chance to flow.
The bloke to my right went downstairs at 37mins and didn't come back. Plus side, more legroom.
The bloke to my right went downstairs at 37mins and didn't come back. Plus side, more legroom.
you cant stop can you?
just STFU, its not hard.
OK, in all seriousness Tommy, how many people do you ever agree with. Every time I see you in a thread you're always disagreeing with someone.
Maybe it's more pity than sorrow. As I said, he was having a total 'mare, and he needs to find some other job.
I'm not specifically criticising AVB (clearly that's not allowed here). We've been progressing well of late, had some excellent performances, good results and have been great to watch too. But we weren't getting through or creating enough chances. We can't simply blame it on Stoke. It's partly them, partly the players, but it is also partly us not changing a system that Stoke were very comfortable dealing with.
My observations on Gylfi are over the last few weeks. I appreciate that some players take longer to settle in at a new club, but one header does not make him a resounding success, and the likes of Dembele, Lloris and, in the past, VDV have settled in almost straight away. The season is 5 months old now, and I really want him to step up and show the talent for us that he clearly has. Hopefully, something like the Coventry match could be his "Gareth-Bale-Peterborough" moment.
Actually, thinking back, didn't we even fuck up the pre-match? We were still showing the highlights of last seasons horror show, got as far as Stoke's goal, the players were walking out, the star wars music hadn't started, then it did, and then it crashed, and then it half restarted... how difficult is it to sort that out? Should have just turned around and gone home then. With the shit weather, God was giving us enough warnings to go and do something else. But I'm determined to go to every Stoke home match now until we give them a proper hiding. It must happen at some point.
Atmosphere wasn't great. Sure I heard some muppet singing the Adebayor 'elephant washer' tune as well.
Was speaking to a Spurs fan in the queue for a train who said he was from Stoke and there were murmurs that they aren't happy with what is going on at Stoke, yet they celebrate a 0-0 draw like they've won 3-0 in the cup final.
I don't particularly like the way they play and how much they got away with some crap, but they don't half defend bloody well as a unit. Having a back 4 and then 2 defensive mids and a right back playing on the wing probably helps that though.
Was speaking to a Spurs fan in the queue for a train who said he was from Stoke and there were murmurs that they aren't happy with what is going on at Stoke, yet they celebrate a 0-0 draw like they've won 3-0 in the cup final.
I don't particularly like the way they play and how much they got away with some crap, but they don't half defend bloody well as a unit. Having a back 4 and then 2 defensive mids and a right back playing on the wing probably helps that though.
Are you being serious? You honestly think that Defoe and Adebayor played well? How can you defend Adebayor losing every single aerial duel he was a part of in the game? How can you defend him missing the sitter of a header that Bale crossed to him. Bale and Vertonghen were throwing dangerous crosses into the box all the time and Adebayor was nowhere to be seen to try to get on the end of them while Defoe is just plain to small to do that. I dont understand how you can keep defending them for doing nothing besides run around a lot.
Does it not occur to you that if I dont disagree with people, then I either agree or have no opinions on what they have to say?
I dont feel the need to suck up to people or to post eulogies, or indulge in the mutual backslapping by giving plus or minus points to people.
The net result is that if I feel I have something to say, I will post, if I don't I'll keep my self to myself.
You however, appear incapable of passing anything up for comment. A habit that if you did it in real life would probably result in being beaten on a regular basis.
I know you think you are witty beyond belief, and that you are here for the craic, but I just prefer to discuss footballing issues - either to disagree with someone or to offer an opinion in the first place.
You however simply post carping remarks on a permanent basis, like a form of internet tourettes.
Last season was amazing.All the bitching, moaning, and whining is really making what was one of the most perfect forums ever, shitty. Not even enjoyable to discuss Spurs anymore.
DISCLAIMER: This post was not directed at anyone in particular. It might have been, but I don't want to be bitched at. I'm a lover :adebaehug: not a fighter
Yes, but the last few months were horrible.
This place was more entertaining after the champions league final last year,than it is this season after a home draw.
Exactly how I feel.