Tottenham Hotspur vs Millwall FA CUP

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Give them the full 4000, or close to it. It's unfair not to... but put walls of police around them in the ground (especially to protect our wheelchair-bound fans unfortunate enough to be sitting in front of them in the SW corner). Barriers/netting blocking at least 10 seats between them and us. Barriers/netting blocking the front 3 rows to make a pitch invasion harder.

Home tickets to be done on loyalty points. Easy.

Had a quick word with the Don, he reckons we should build a wall to keep out the Wall.
 
Morning, tame Millwall fan here.

All this allocation stuff is a bit of a red herring, in my opinion.

Whether Spurs give Millwall 1,000 or 4,000 tickets, it makes no difference to the security of the match. Millwall FF has just under 6,000 season ticket holders and another 10,000 or so members. To become a STH or member you have to hand in lots of personal information & a passport photo. This all gets passed onto the Met.

Therefore, no active Millwall hooligan is a season ticket holder or member. If Spurs gave Millwall FC 4,000 tickets (the same as Wycombe Wanderers) then they would all be snapped up by season ticket holders. Not for some hooligan day out, but because it is a big cup game at a big club in a grand old stadium we rarely get to visit.

There will be no trouble inside or outside the stadium from Millwall fans. When we play Charlton we get 3,200 tickets. All go to STHs. Despite the clubs being local rivals there is never any serious disorder, no pitch invasions.

I am also certain that you normal Spurs fans see us as just another small London club. Therefore, this is not like a fierce, historic rivalry like we have with your friends West Ham United. When we play at Upton Park nearly every single one of them is out to get us. This would not be the case at White Hart Lane.

The only reason this fixture is anymore high profile than Spurs v Charlton would be is because of the rivalry between the two firms - as both are the biggest and most active in London. Although, strangely, the last time the two met was when they teamed up at the World Cup in France to take on the Russians, along with Luton & Portsmouth hooligans.

They will meet up whatever, because that is what these serious hooligans do. However, the Millwall firm won't be in the ground. In fact, I think this will be quite a disappointment for the media and curious Spurs fans looking to gawp at the travelling zoo that is the nasty Millwall support. Our fans in the ground will all be normal, everyday people, more Danny Baker & Greg Wallace Millwall fans, than Tamer Hassan & Ian 'Tiny' Garwood Millwall fans.

In fact, it is much more likely that the real herberts on the day, well the ones that normal fans will see (as the hooligans will be off radar somewhere), will be the young lads with silly haircuts and snide designer clothes drinking cheap larger out to throw beer cans at the escort of Millwall fans. It will be a strange scene inside the ground too, as the silly haircut brigade will be spitting insults and threats to office workers and affable electricians etc. from Welling and Bromley.... while our hooligans are miles away.

As for the football, I fear for us. You lot look good and will take it seriously. Also, our record in London derbies is excellent, we often get the better of Chelsea, West Ham, Palace and even Woolwich. Our derby with Charlton is officially the most one-sided in English football. Yet, you lot...you always beat us. In the official head to head record we have beaten you 21 times - but most of those were in our hey day as the leading light of London football, the era where we earned our nickname the 'Lions', replacing 'Dockers'. In more recent times I was at The Den when we were riding high in the old First Division and rarely lost at home, in fact we had just gone unbeaten at home for a whole season for the 5th time a couple of years before, yet you blew us away 5-0.

My prediction for this one...

Tottenham Hotspur 4-1 Millwall. Lions take shock lead. Harry to get a hat-trick, but not celebrate. Goes off to a standing ovation from both fans. Spurs fans miffed by how 'normal' the 3,000 Millwall fans are, but on way home log onto social media and read about 'street battles' that they never got to witness.

Spurs go on to win Cup.
You complete bastard.

You've rolled me over, tickled my tummy, and completely won me over with your calmness and rationale.

Feel free to take the whole of the West Stand as well.
 
Millwall like to take the piss. It is all playing up for the lurkers on those messageboards.

Ever been to the USA or a posh do and talked a bit more 'cockney' to play to the crowd...I know I used to make sure I said morning 'gels' when talking to the posh totty at University...it is a bit like that.

Gawd, blaaahoimy... Oy dhunno wot yar awn abaaht me ol' mucker-mate!

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Um-diddle-iddle-iddle-dum-diddley-aye!
 
Great post. The only issue we had from the other Millwall poster was the suggestion that thousands of season ticket holders would turn up without tickets. I just can't believe that would happen. As you say, most of your loyal fans are just normal people. I would find it truly bizarre they would turn up on Tottenham high street to most likely not be able to watch the game in a pub and possibly risk their safety. Shed any light on this?

It's not the 2-4000 ST holders that are lucky enough to get tickets that are likely to play the cunts (although there were a fair few of them soiling their own doorstep against Leicester) but why on earth, in 2017, would anyone travel from South of the river, to Tottenham, to watch the match in a pub? I could understand it, if it was a jolly across the channel with the chance of a spare, or worst case scenario watching the game in some lovely sun drenched piazza with a few like minded mates & a beer. Turn it into a little break. This is probably a Sunday afternoon, in early March, in Tottenham.
If you don't have a ticket, don't travel. Watch it locally on TV. It's immediately suspicious the moment that folk start threatening to turn up anyway. No wonder people on here are raising eyebrows.
 
It's not the 2-4000 ST holders that are lucky enough to get tickets that are likely to play the cunts (although there were a fair few of them soiling their own doorstep against Leicester) but why on earth, in 2017, would anyone travel from South of the river, to Tottenham, to watch the match in a pub? I could understand it, if it was a jolly across the channel with the chance of a spare, or worst case scenario watching the game in some lovely sun drenched piazza with a few like minded mates & a beer. Turn it into a little break. This is probably a Sunday afternoon, in early March, in Tottenham.
If you don't have a ticket, don't travel. Watch it locally on TV. It's immediately suspicious the moment that folk start threatening to turn up anyway. No wonder people on here are raising eyebrows.

Mate of mine posts on one of their forums, last post he showed me 'just move it to the Emirates you gas mark 8 Yid cunts'. I suppose thats what Lewis1885 Lewis1885 calls 'taking the piss'.

Not sure why i'm not laughing. Perhaps i missed the joke?
 
Mate of mine posts on one of their forums, last post he showed me 'just move it to the Emirates you gas mark 8 Yid cunts'. I suppose thats what Lewis1885 Lewis1885 calls 'taking the piss'.

Not sure why i'm not laughing. Perhaps i missed the joke?
:pochfacepalm:

Friendly banter?
And people wonder why the authorities are questioning the allocations for this one? I'm sure there are some very nice Millwall fans out there. Sadly though lads, you have an insidious minority that revel in the bad boy reputation. And that's why you all get tarred with the same brush & punished as a club. Wise up & weed out the shit element. It's 2017, not 1980
 
:pochfacepalm:

Friendly banter?
And people wonder why the authorities are questioning the allocations for this one? I'm sure there are some very nice Millwall fans out there. Sadly though lads, you have an insidious minority that revel in the bad boy reputation. And that's why you all get tarred with the same brush & punished as a club. Wise up & weed out the shit element. It's 2017, not 1980

Couldn't agree more. It is a shame because 35% of their support are actually quite decent.
 
Main concern in the ground would be little mobs buying up or worming into the not-so-jolly corporate at the back of the Paxton lower. Always seems to be away fans in those, fuck all checks from Tottenham - even the Wycombe game was a box full who started giving it the biggy after their first goal. Think they all got thrown out but that was Wycombe FFS.
 
Morning, tame Millwall fan here.

All this allocation stuff is a bit of a red herring, in my opinion.

Whether Spurs give Millwall 1,000 or 4,000 tickets, it makes no difference to the security of the match. Millwall FF has just under 6,000 season ticket holders and another 10,000 or so members. To become a STH or member you have to hand in lots of personal information & a passport photo. This all gets passed onto the Met.

Therefore, no active Millwall hooligan is a season ticket holder or member. If Spurs gave Millwall FC 4,000 tickets (the same as Wycombe Wanderers) then they would all be snapped up by season ticket holders. Not for some hooligan day out, but because it is a big cup game at a big club in a grand old stadium we rarely get to visit.

There will be no trouble inside or outside the stadium from Millwall fans. When we play Charlton we get 3,200 tickets. All go to STHs. Despite the clubs being local rivals there is never any serious disorder, no pitch invasions.

I am also certain that you normal Spurs fans see us as just another small London club. Therefore, this is not like a fierce, historic rivalry like we have with your friends West Ham United. When we play at Upton Park nearly every single one of them is out to get us. This would not be the case at White Hart Lane.

The only reason this fixture is anymore high profile than Spurs v Charlton would be is because of the rivalry between the two firms - as both are the biggest and most active in London. Although, strangely, the last time the two met was when they teamed up at the World Cup in France to take on the Russians, along with Luton & Portsmouth hooligans.

They will meet up whatever, because that is what these serious hooligans do. However, the Millwall firm won't be in the ground. In fact, I think this will be quite a disappointment for the media and curious Spurs fans looking to gawp at the travelling zoo that is the nasty Millwall support. Our fans in the ground will all be normal, everyday people, more Danny Baker & Greg Wallace Millwall fans, than Tamer Hassan & Ian 'Tiny' Garwood Millwall fans.

In fact, it is much more likely that the real herberts on the day, well the ones that normal fans will see (as the hooligans will be off radar somewhere), will be the young lads with silly haircuts and snide designer clothes drinking cheap larger out to throw beer cans at the escort of Millwall fans. It will be a strange scene inside the ground too, as the silly haircut brigade will be spitting insults and threats to office workers and affable electricians etc. from Welling and Bromley.... while our hooligans are miles away.

As for the football, I fear for us. You lot look good and will take it seriously. Also, our record in London derbies is excellent, we often get the better of Chelsea, West Ham, Palace and even Woolwich. Our derby with Charlton is officially the most one-sided in English football. Yet, you lot...you always beat us. In the official head to head record we have beaten you 21 times - but most of those were in our hey day as the leading light of London football, the era where we earned our nickname the 'Lions', replacing 'Dockers'. In more recent times I was at The Den when we were riding high in the old First Division and rarely lost at home, in fact we had just gone unbeaten at home for a whole season for the 5th time a couple of years before, yet you blew us away 5-0.

My prediction for this one...

Tottenham Hotspur 4-1 Millwall. Lions take shock lead. Harry to get a hat-trick, but not celebrate. Goes off to a standing ovation from both fans. Spurs fans miffed by how 'normal' the 3,000 Millwall fans are, but on way home log onto social media and read about 'street battles' that they never got to witness.

Spurs go on to win Cup.
No active millwall hoolifan is a member or ST holder - I'll send you a bill for the stitches I now need in my busted gut :)
 
The comparison of allocation with Emirates isn't really fair in this case. Even with 15% at the gooners, there would still be more than enough seats for their home fans to attend a big fixture like that. I mean they don't even sell out their own ground most games anyway.

At whl we are already operating at reduced capacity and on top of that it's our last ever fa cup game at the old ground. Therefore it makes sense to give the highest possible opportunity for our home fans to attend

From a selfish point of view, yes. But why should Millwall suffer because of that? That's why FA rules states that 15% should go to the visiting team.

Is it really that hard to look at a case from a different perspective than your own? We would all be pissed off if we got a smaller allocation than we are entitled to when we play someone away.
 
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