Tottenham Hotspur vs Leeds United; Sunday 21st November 2021; 16.30

[Billy Bob mate]

Imagine thinking Winks is part of our best 11….

:contefacepalm:

Show me a post where I said that and I'll wear a 'ArcspacE should be manager' t-shirt for every game

 

[poch's coat]

I wonder what would have happened if Kane played Winks through.

Throw in.

 

[AlabamaSpur]

Forgive me for not wanking over being absolutely bossed at home to Leeds like you clearly were. Bellend.

I wasn’t happy about anything. I just wasnt about to lose my mind when 2/3 of the game had yet to be played. Have a word with yourself.

 

[Nutter-Naylor]

Yep that's what I'm saying. He did the right thing but the fact he had to doing was utterly cringe, I never want to see that again (but I know we will because our support right now is dead).

We've all ripped into Klopp having to cheerlead at Anfield. Our support is fucking dead.

I also thought booing the team off at the end of 1st half was completely misjudged too, if you want your manager out because you've seen nothing from them then by all means the fans are OK to do so but to boo in the guys FIRST home game is rediculous (the performance was shit, so just don't applaud them off)

The bottom line is our fanbase is dead and offer this team nothing other than singing one song once in a while.

Maybe people that never go to games should turn up and show us how it is done?

 

[SpurFromOz]

Maybe people that never go to games should turn up and show us how it is done?

You were there mate ? How as the atmosphere in your view.
Honest question.

 

[Legacy Lilywhite]

Feared the worst today as my train up was delayed and I missed my connections… usually a sign from the gods to turn back!

First half was classic Nuno/Jose ball in other words no movement, energy, running or desire of any kind. Worse possibly than MU at home. Second half was entertaining but messy. H worked hard but some poor decision making in the final third. He’ll get a break soon enough and then hopefully get a hatful.

God knows what Conte really thinks of this squad. At least this is something to build from and he can also clearly give a half time talk, as well as respond tactically when things go wrong. Love the man’s passion too. He’s what a leader looks like.

Oh and it was faaaking cold and the bars in my area ran out of hot chocolate and then hot water altogether.

 

[oldwiltshireyid]

The difference between the two halves was like chalk and cheese. Why does it take a half time rollicking to motivate these professional well paid athletes? Thank god it was Antonio in the dressing room at half time or I think we could have been in deep trouble

 

[Airfixx]

I am not putting it all on Conte’s tactics at all. I’m saying let’s give Conte some time to work with him, if he can and if he switches to 352 and a three man midfield, and manages to get him playing how he wants then he could become pivotal. If not then fair fucks.

Fair enough, but when you make the proviso that 'only' 532 is a condition to warrants his criticism then it just comes accross like you're leaving the door open for more excuses for him.

In the long term, if he can't graft enough to cover the ground required of him to play in a 343 too then I'd say that's still a fail on his part..... Players like Fabregas & Dembele amongst others weren't athletic work-horses.

(I concede that being one of the 2 in a 4231 isn't for everyone, but with 3CBs + WBs around him he ought to be able to raise himself to play in 532 and 343.)

He didn’t just say “he doesn’t run enough” he said he needs to be more positionally aware:

“Conte recognises Ndombele's talent but believes his biggest problem is his positioning, insisting he cannot just 'run around the pitch' and must work hard for the team as a collective.”

Which I think is actually fair criticism. But I still retain some hope that Conte can work with him.

My point about a shift to a cm3 is that even I don’t have much faith in him playing in a CM2, especially with our other midfield cloggers.

I'm not someone that lacks the ability to apportion hope when it comes to any of our players..... I'd love for his issues to prove to have been purely tactical... I'm just not holding much faith in that though.

 

[Nutter-Naylor]

You were there mate ? How as the atmosphere in your view.

Nervous. First half was poor but not terrible. Second half was better and pretty decent. I actually think the South Stand is too big to get more than the standard 5-6 songs going though.

 

[Shadydan]

No

When you need to include a person's heritage, country, religion etc...in an attempt to put someone down, it says a lot about you, a lot.

Do better.

 

[SpurFromOz]

Nervous. First half was poor but not terrible. Second half was better and pretty decent. I actually think the South Stand is too big to get more than the standard 5-6 songs going though.

 

[Guido 🇺🇦]

Maybe people that never go to games should turn up and show us how it is done?

I actually think that's what's causing it, 30k probably only went to 1 or 2 games a season now got ST's and don't know any songs apart from COYS and OWTS.

 

[The Mercurial No.10]

Maybe people that never go to games should turn up and show us how it is done?

I do hope to buy you a pint at some point.

 

[Airfixx]

We need more songs, but where do they come from?

We have loads of songs that aren't player exclusive...... Just very few of them are sung anymore.

 

[TeamSpirit™]

Watching Winks and PEH being treated like training cones by opponents is infuriating.

 

[paddy spur]

First half we were dreadful a 60% improvement ithe second half. Good to see conte at the death imploring the west stand to get behind the side. It ignited the ground and was needed.

 

[VonnegutBusy]

When you need to include a person's heritage, country, religion etc...in an attempt to put someone down, it says a lot about you, a lot.

Do better.

Bore me later

 

[Nutter-Naylor]

I do hope to buy you a pint at some point.

Look forward to it. Shout out to the usual suspects. Legacy Lilywhite Shades East Mid Yid Mrs Perryman and our assorted friends.

 

[Nutter-Naylor]

I actually think that's what's causing it, 30k probably only went to 1 or 2 games a season now got ST's and don't know any songs apart from COYS and OWTS.

Very valid point to be fair.

 

[Bill Madrid]

Imagine thinking Winks is part of our best 11….

:contefacepalm:

And yet he had a fine second half.

You must have been gutted.

"It was only Leeds"