Tottenham Hotspur v Woolwich Scum (15th Jan - 4.30pm)

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Please, for the sake of justice and to speak out for his victims, anyone in attendance please do your best to contribute towards a bellowing choral rendition of “She Said No”. Booing will just get filtered out but they’ll have a job filtering out 60k people singing! Let the world know what the papers have been prevented from reporting.

Let’s kick rapists out of football.
 
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Booked tickets for my girlfriend to some vegan food festival in Helsinki she has always wanted to visit which ends 30 minutes before kick off.

Been looking for sports bars in the area, preparing my backup batteries, laptop, lucky scarf etc knowing I need a quick exit and setup even if in a Mcdonalds or something nearby then move at half time. Really nervous about missing any of it.

Last night she told me the games on Sunday and the food festival is Saturday. COYS!!!!
 
This is bang on 👏

Spurs’ – and Conte’s – lack of fervour thrown into stark relief by Woolwich​

Led by a manager who is treading water, Tottenham are going nowhere, while their derby rivals kick on with commitment​

Jonathan Liew
Harry Kane applauds the Spurs fans as his team trudge off at full-time after defeat by Arsenal.

After the final whistle, after the booing and brawling had subsided, as Woolwich’s giddy players jigged and danced their way over to their supporters in the corner, Yves Bissouma stood alone in the Tottenham half watching them. Watching with longing, and envy, and perhaps even a certain curiosity. Joy? Pleasure? Celebration? What are these strange new things?

By that stage, of course, Bissouma’s teammates had long since retired to the warmth of the dressing room. They did not want to be there any longer, and nor did the Tottenham fans who were already slogging down the High Road in search of liquid consolation. Antonio Conte, as he never tires of telling us, does still want to be here. Ideally. Providing several important conditions are met. It can hardly be his fault, after all, that the club keeps disappointing him like this.



Conte is one of the world’s great coaches. No quibbles there. But some coaches and clubs are simply the wrong fit for each other. Tottenham have now played six games against the rest of the big seven and lost every one, bar the late draw at Chelsea. What is the purpose of Conte’s nous and experience if not to navigate them through the biggest games? How many players have improved under him, developed, found new levels? If you were the sporting director at an elite European club looking to raid Tottenham for their best young talent, who would you look at to build a team around for the next five years?

Dejan Kulusevski, certainly. Rodrigo Bentancur and Cristian Romero, maybe. Harry Kane and Son Heung-min, fitness permitting. The rest you would probably discard. Bissouma, signed to such fanfare in the summer, has retreated into himself. The same for Ryan Sessegnon. Djed Spence may turn into a player, but we’re not finding out any time soon. Pape Sarr has promise, but throwing a debutant into a two-on-four midfield ambush in a game of this size was an act of pure dereliction, and one with predictable consequences.

None of this is really the issue, though. As Tottenham forlornly tried to feel their way into a game that had started without them, the stench of gilded dysfunction poured out of every orifice. Heavy touches. Passes straight out of play. Passes to static players who had no room to manoeuvre. A genuinely unbelievable percentage of Tottenham attacks ended up with the ball at Hugo Lloris’s feet, as if they were trying to score the perfect team goal in reverse. At one point Pierre-Emile Højbjerg tried a little diagonal dink to Kulusevski and ended up not merely putting it out of play, but sending it halfway to Hornsey. There is a fear here, a fatalism, sod’s law in football club form. What if that pass gets cut out? What if I lose possession? What if Woolwich counter? Don’t make a mistake. DON’T MAKE A MISTAKE.

Antonio Conte looks displeased on the touchline

Antonio Conte showed in the defeat against Woolwich that he has failed to bring about any improvement in the players under his charge. Photograph: Dylan Martinez/Reuters


Remember Woolwich’s first game back after the World Cup? West Ham at home. Everyone’s wondering whether they still have it. Whether the break will kill their flow. They go a goal down. And the noise that rises around them is a godly thing: a howl of defiance and conviction, a storm to scream down the storm. The players still remember it fondly. Martin Ødegaard mentioned it last week. It was their fortifying moment.

Here Tottenham went a goal down. Nothing. Just the hiss of leaking air, a numbness, a dumbness. What if Woolwich win the league? What if Kane leaves? What is this thing we’ve paid to watch? Our bills keep rising, nothing works, last year’s Golden Boot winner has forgotten how to trap a football and it’s been raining for about four months. Best to sit quietly and wait for this to pass, which it will not.

There are a lot of things here that are not Conte’s fault, but one important thing that is. Conte is not responsible for the years of dysfunction that preceded him, Son’s mystifying decline, the uneven squad he inherited. It is not Conte’s fault that Woolwich are as good as they are, their movement so precise, extreme order in the clothes of extreme chaos, Ødegaard a man playing in his own personal metaverse, Bukayo Saka a winger who simply refuses to let you have the ball.



But when a coach’s commitment to the club feels so conditional, why should anybody else sweat and bleed for it? Conte is not wedded to this project as Pep Guardiola is to Manchester City or Jürgen Klopp to Liverpool. He does not empathise with Tottenham as Mikel Arteta does with Woolwich or Gareth Ainsworth with Wycombe. This is a job, and a strictly limited-term job at that, a job to keep him going until something better comes along. His priority, career-wise, is simply not to mess up. Grasp that, and everything you see on the pitch makes a little more sense.

Where we go from here is anyone’s guess. The Conte interregnum should at least end Daniel Levy’s masochistic obsession with managers who believe the club is beneath them. A club of Tottenham’s size should not be trying to hire the last great coach but the next, the visionary who can pick through this shambles piece by piece, keep what works and sweep away what does not. At the very least, it should find someone who really, unconditionally wants to be there. Why, indeed, should any club settle for anything less?


 
Booked tickets for my girlfriend to some vegan food festival in Helsinki she has always wanted to visit which ends 30 minutes before kick off.

Been looking for sports bars in the area, preparing my backup batteries, laptop, lucky scarf etc knowing I need a quick exit and setup even if in a Mcdonalds or something nearby then move at half time. Really nervous about missing any of it.

Last night she told me the games on Sunday and the food festival is Saturday. COYS!!!!
Promoted to the how middle class are you thread.
 
Saw the gooner neighbour who lives three doors down , earlier today . “ Are you ready for the disappointment on Sunday “ he says . With a face like thunder ,I replied ,” I think the disappointment is going to be all yours” Please , please Spurs help me wipe the smirk off of that gooners ugly mutt . Don’t let me down . COYS
 
Surely when every manager keeps failing we can’t just keep blaming them? There is more to it then that
The board are to blame and always have been, but it doesn’t make a manager invincible

Conte’s tactics and decisions this season have been disgraceful

When you pay a manager as much as we do him, you expect something, anything

We get outplayed by absolute dross week in week out
 
Son was rubbish today, bloody awful.. I am convinced he is being played for commercial reasons..

Too many Son fans at the Stadium (who don't support Spurs), too many general tourists and people actually buying and wearing Spurs / Woolwich half 'n' half scarves - wtf is all that about..

I would happily knock this stadium down and go back to the old WHL with 30 odd thousand supporters that want to be there..
 
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