Spurs HG Quota Status (Summer 2022 Update)

[Zomb]

In UEFA no, PL yes.
Definitely worth either getting rid off or dropping from the squad if we can get another RWB.

Just get no-one

 

[sudoku]

This is where Ryan Reynolds plan to take Wrexham into the Premier League will come unstuck, besides the fact they are rubbish. I assume a Wrexham team would have to make the HG quota with only Welsh players and their English contingent would be considered Johnny Foreigner for them.

This could put a transfer market premium on Ben Davies head as a “must have” for any Welsh team in the Premier League. Sadly I think timing will be off as Davies will have retired and probably become an Uber driver annoying passengers with tales of how he once made it to the by line before crossing into the box long before Wrexham, Swansea or anyone else makes it close.

Wrexham would have no problems with HG in the EPL.
There would only be problems if they got into Europe.

 

[sudoku]

Here are the 2 different Spurs squads for domestic and Euro games.

	EPL	EL
	NON-HG (13)	NON-HG (17)
1	LLORIS	LLORIS	1
2	GOLLINI	GOLLINI	2
3	ROYAL	ROYAL	3
4	ROMERO	ROMERO	4
5	DIER	DIER	5
6	SANCHEZ	SANCHEZ	6
7	REGUILON	REGUILON	7
8	HOJBJERG	HOJBJERG	8
9	NDOMBELE	NDOMBELE	9
10	LO CELSO	LO CELSO	10
11	BERGWIJN	BERGWIJN	11
12	MOURA	MOURA	12
13	SON	SON	13
		GIL	14
		DOHERTY	15
		DAVIES	16
		RODON	17
	HG (8)	ASSOCIATION (4)
1	DOHERTY
2	DAVIES
3	RODON
4	ALLI	ALLI	1
		SESSEGNON	2
		CLARKE	3
		OMOLE	4
		CLUB TRAINED (4)
5	AUSTIN	AUSTIN	1
6	WINKS	WINKS	2
7	KANE	KANE	3
8	TANGANGA	TANGANGA	4
	SQUAD TOTAL: 21	SQUAD TOTAL: 25
	SELECTED	SELECTED
	U 21	U 21
	SESSEGNON
	GIL
	DEVINE
	CLARKE
	PASKOTSKI
	LAVINIER
	SARR
	SKIPP	SKIPP
	SCARLETT	SCARLETT
	JOHN	JOHN
	WHITE	WHITE
	MARKANDAY	MARKANDAY
	CESAY	CESAY
	WALCOTT	WALCOTT
	BLF	BLF
	MATT CRAIG	MATT CRAIG
	MIKE CRAIG	MIKE CRAIG
	MUNDLE	MUNDLE

 

[Airfixx]

In UEFA no, PL yes.
Definitely worth either getting rid off or dropping from the squad if we can get another RWB.

Don't need another RB in the short term...

Emerson, Japh, Stevie(?) ..... Lucas(?)

Just get rid to an EPL struggler and see how the land lies in the summer.

 

[Airfixx]

It’s easy then Davies, Doherty and two of Dier, Sanchez or Rodon can make way.

Bit more nuanced than that considering the Welsh lads are HG re EPL.

 

[sudoku]

Just to add:
Devine has not been included in ECL squads as he was not eligible because Nuno decided to have Omole instead of Alfie in the association players list.

 

[Spursidol]

Just to add:
Devine has not been included in ECL squads as he was not eligible because Nuno decided to have Omole instead of Alfie in the association players list.

Next season Devine would be counted as an under 21/List B player as he will have completed 2 years at Spurs in UEFA squads - Omole would continue to require an HG place to play.

This January Spurs could choose to include Devine in the UEFA squad as an HG player at the expense of Omole (who might go on loan)

 

[ArcspacE]

Don't need another RB in the short term...

Emerson, Japh, Stevie(?) ..... Lucas(?)

Did you just call Bergwyn and Lucas RBs?

 

[OffTheBench]

This is where Ryan Reynolds plan to take Wrexham into the Premier League will come unstuck, besides the fact they are rubbish. I assume a Wrexham team would have to make the HG quota with only Welsh players and their English contingent would be considered Johnny Foreigner for them.

This could put a transfer market premium on Ben Davies head as a “must have” for any Welsh team in the Premier League. Sadly I think timing will be off as Davies will have retired and probably become an Uber driver annoying passengers with tales of how he once made it to the by line before crossing into the box long before Wrexham, Swansea or anyone else makes it close.

Swansea seemed to manage a few years ago. Worst case I guess you just register the minimum number of random Welsh youth players and rely on the 17 foreigners.

 

[deadleyledley]

I would certainly bin Gollini for Austin.

This was also one of the reasons I was surprised we let KWP go.

 

[Paul Gascoigne]

Its no problemo ! One of Conte's first moves is to get us transferred to Seria A
That way he can just sign Italians with no problem.
Or.....

"Spurs borrow 6 Chelsea youngsters on loan ! "

Seriously, can you just hear those Woolwich fans chewing on their bumble bees !

 

[To Dare Is To Do.]

My apologies- I mistakenly listed Dele as club trained. He is just a HG- I've edited the OP.

 

[Ulrika Jonsson]

So as we struggle to get Djed Spence transfer over the line I thought I would have a look at this from a CL perspective. Compliance with CL rules means compliance with PL.
the way UEFA explains it is a bit back to front but as far as I can understand.

- there is a max 25 of senior players allowed
- at least 4 of them need to be club trained
- at least 4 others can be trained by other clubs in the PL.

Club Trained
In a squad of 25 we would have the following ( assume Winks leaves)
- 3rd Keeper (Whiteman / Austen)
- Tanganga
- Skipp
- Kane

Other PL Trained
- Sessegnon
- Forster
- Spence (if he comes)
???

Looks like we would need a couple of the kids like Harvey White etc to make up the difference.

 

[StripiestPilot]

I think we will target another attacking home grown player. There have been links to Maddison, Lingard, Gordon etc.

 

[sudoku]

Looks like we would need a couple of the kids like Harvey White etc to make up the difference.

Harvey is still U 21 in both EPL and UCL.
As are Scarlett, Devine, Parrott and Etete.

 

[To Dare Is To Do.]

I have updated the OP to current situation. Let me know if it is unclear.

This is the situation regarding squad numbers and quotas for CL (PL is fine):

Disclaimer:
-I did not count any of the players who were loaned out last season (all of whom we are likely to loan/sell once again) or Bergwijn.
-I did include Lenglet

Non-HG Players = 18 (1 over the limit)
Lloris, Emerson, Doherty, Sanchez, Dier, Romero, Rodon, Davies, (Lenglet), Reguilon, Perisic, Hojbjerg, Bentancur, Bissouma, Richarlison, Kulusevski, Lucas, Son
Sarr, Ndombele, Lo Celso, Gil, Bergwijn

Non-Club-Trained HG = 2 (within limit)
Sessegnon, Forster

Club Trained = 5 (within limit)
Austin, Tanganga, Skipp, Winks?, Kane

 

[To Dare Is To Do.]

This is a summary of situation, and possible impact on rest of window:

Summary:
-We are 1 player over the limit when it comes to non-HG players.
-We must omit/sell 1 of either Rodon/Reguilon/Emerson/Doherty to meet the quota.

Effect on rest of window:
-We still want a RWB, AM, 2nd CB (1st being Lenglet).
-As long 1 of these 3 signings are HG, we can satisfy quota by omitting/selling 3 non-HG players. This can be Rodon & Reguilon & Emerson/Doherty.
-This would mean we have 2 players for each position (Reguilon out for an AM ideally balances our squad), even if you do not count Tanganga & Winks.
-If Tanganga or Winks are sold, each would need to be replaced by a HG to reach max senior squad limit of 25 .

 

[harry7]

So as we struggle to get Djed Spence transfer over the line I thought I would have a look at this from a CL perspective. Compliance with CL rules means compliance with PL.
the way UEFA explains it is a bit back to front but as far as I can understand.

- there is a max 25 of senior players allowed
- at least 4 of them need to be club trained
- at least 4 others can be trained by other clubs in the PL.

Club Trained
In a squad of 25 we would have the following ( assume Winks leaves)
- 3rd Keeper (Whiteman / Austen)
- Tanganga
- Skipp
- Kane

Other PL Trained
- Sessegnon
- Forster
- Spence (if he comes)
???

Looks like we would need a couple of the kids like Harvey White etc to make up the difference.

We also have Jack Clarke who is now over 21 as other PL trained. Pretty sure he will be sold / loaned.

 

[Zomb]

It’s not like we get points deducted, right? Just means some senior pro’s can’t play in the CL….. which is actually a good lever to force them out and for agents to find them another clubs and force their client to see sense and FO

:tanguyhuh:

 

[Bill Madrid]

One of the reasons I'm less than buzzing over the Lenglet loan is that if Rodon (and/or Tanga) leaves we will have effectively undone the benefit of the Gollini/Forster swap.