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That can't be right. All Asians cheer only for teams in red because something something racism good luck.
Top 9 only.
God help us the day we become City or Chelsea.
Seriously. Scum of the earth. Winning by buying up all European talent til one comes off, stunting players' growth and even ruining careers in some cases. Everyone is dispensible to them.
It's similar to if doping were allowed in athletics, then supporting the one guy that does it and celebrating when he runs out clear winner. Wow. What an achievement.
I'd rather be a Conference side with a soul than one of those cunts.
And I mean that.
Seriously. Scum of the earth. Winning by buying up all European talent til one comes off, stunting players' growth and even ruining careers in some cases. Everyone is dispensible to them.
It's similar to if doping were allowed in athletics, then supporting the one guy that does it and celebrating when he runs out clear winner. Wow. What an achievement.
I'd rather be a Conference side with a soul than one of those cunts.
And I mean that.
Well said Simmo, it's trophies we need, it's all very well for ENIC helping to beef up our value to make a fantastic profit when they sell us, but what about all that audere est facere baloney
It is amazing just how high top English clubs rank in brand value, I guess it's the power of the Prem in essence. Look at us, one League Cup in 15 years, no domestic title since 1961, and still the 10th most valuable brand in world football (according to Forbes anyway).
Well said Simmo, it's trophies we need, it's all very well for ENIC helping to beef up our value to make a fantastic profit when they sell us, but what about all that audere est facere baloney
It is amazing just how high top English clubs rank in brand value, I guess it's the power of the Prem in essence. Look at us, one League Cup in 15 years, no domestic title since 1961, and still the 10th most valuable brand in world football (according to Forbes anyway).
I don't understand the disagree you received for this whatsoever!
We all go over this so often but it's not just one mistake and missed opportunity, it's loads. The scum were not miles ahead of us, but slowly but surely they are now. There were chances to take advantage of them in transition, paying off the new stadium and so on....we blew them all.
No we're not as big as Liverpool but I do get sick of the people who easily swallow the fact we haven't got as big a history, a bigger stadium or a sugar daddy as to why we're not in a better position. The Champions League has been 1pt away, a penalty shoot out away and even this season just a few points away (from Stoke or Palace or Burnley or West Brom or Villa).
Who is naive enough to think that a side which did get into the Champions League more than once and had Bale, Modric, Carrick, Kane, Lloris etc playing would not have attracted more top players or, that bigger sponsors paying more to fuel higher wages would really be put off by us only holding 36k?
Success breeds success, ineptitude and failure breeds, well, we know what.
Of course it's not always that simple but anybody who really thinks we've not thrown away a chance to consolidate a Champions League place in recent years is my idea of a negative fan with a negative attitude. Ironically they'd be the first to jump on the 'moaners' as being the negative ones for not being content with where we're at.
Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser.
Do note that brand value is something entirely different from club value, though. Brand value only includes intangibles - name, logo etc, while club value also includes all the tangible assets like players, stadium, training ground etc.
Don't forget that The Fighting Cock pumps up our brand value by an absurd amount.
Asians see this site and go wild for Spurs. Sometimes they get their tits out for no reason.
The podcast has 3.7billion subscribers. Africans don't even have water but make sure then have bandwidth for the podcast.
Oh and don't forget the Fanzine. Rumour has it that Kim Jong Un bought a copy each for all 25million North Koreans whilst the Red Cross (Renamed the Lillywhite Cross) distributes fanzines to those in need.
The podcast lads have their heads carved into the mountains of Japan on similar vibe to Mount Rushmore.
People forget this.
Asians see this site and go wild for Spurs. Sometimes they get their tits out for no reason.
The podcast has 3.7billion subscribers. Africans don't even have water but make sure then have bandwidth for the podcast.
Oh and don't forget the Fanzine. Rumour has it that Kim Jong Un bought a copy each for all 25million North Koreans whilst the Red Cross (Renamed the Lillywhite Cross) distributes fanzines to those in need.
The podcast lads have their heads carved into the mountains of Japan on similar vibe to Mount Rushmore.
People forget this.
A huge amount of Chelsea 'fans' have generally always been c**ts. Man City's fans have had to endure watching United prosper over them even more and even longer than we've had our own red scum rivals doing to us and that's saying something - I think any attitude they now have is still mainly geared towards bridging the gap with that rivalry more than anything else. At least their fans were there in steps 2 and 3, Chelksi hardly had a ground in the 80s/90s let alone fans.
...and do note that 'brand' and 'club value' come nowhere near matching History, Tradition, and overall club ethos!!
Chelsea and Man City sold theirs out years ago!
Funnily enough, both had quite a decent 'old fashioned club' feel about them throughout the '60s and '70s... but that all seems wiped out now with their ridiculous ransacking of tradition in exchange for some good old fashioned Soul selling, and pacts with the Devil in order to fast-track their 'Global Image Marketing Profile'! (or G.I.M.P to you and me!)
And all their fans get in return are league titles, FA cups, league cups and a Champions League....I'd rather have a nice balance sheet and be contributing to the profits and future sale price of an investment company asset wouldn't you?
Makes me laugh how people think there's something so much more romantic and soulful about ENIC keeping in profit on our money and, only investing really significantly to swell their non player assets as much as poss to maximise the sale price when they decide to flog us.
Don't get me wrong, it is where we are and it's more like the 'right' thing to do but it's still all about the money.
..and what a spoilt bunch of self-entitled cunts they've all become as a result...
Being able to afford it, and being "better" are two different things. They can afford to spend 20-40 million a year on buying young talent and then loaning it for revenue. That's not the same thing as being better at finding or developing that talent, or at getting it to successfully be a part of the first team.
Chelsea, if anything, are noticeably worse than average at that. Their last academy product to join the first team and stick was John Terry...
"A lot."
I`m not so sure. The Premier league is the most watched competition in the world. It has hundreds of millions more followers in China and the far east than the Spanish league. And these people tend to follow the most successful teams and buy their merchandise. So in that respect, Chelsea and City probably are a bigger global brand than the likes of Liverpool and Barcelona. At this moment in time anyway. If City or Chelsea lost their backers and fell away however, there brand would soon drop off alarmingly.
Good points JT.
After EN's comments re brand value, I looked up how Forbes come to to their conclusions.
Unsurprisingly it's quite a complicated process.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbad...rlds-most-valuable-brands-behind-the-numbers/
Some further digging gives us our 'team value' according to them of $600m (£390m), which is about a third of what our owners apparently value us at, assuming team value means the whole club, assets, brand 'n all.
http://www.forbes.com/teams/tottenham-hotspur/
In this list we're 13th, and Real Madrid are top.
Here's how Forbes do team value (I think)
http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeoza...ing-of-the-worlds-most-valuable-soccer-teams/
After EN's comments re brand value, I looked up how Forbes come to to their conclusions.
Unsurprisingly it's quite a complicated process.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbad...rlds-most-valuable-brands-behind-the-numbers/
Some further digging gives us our 'team value' according to them of $600m (£390m), which is about a third of what our owners apparently value us at
, assuming team value means the whole club, assets, brand 'n all.http://www.forbes.com/teams/tottenham-hotspur/
In this list we're 13th, and Real Madrid are top.
Here's how Forbes do team value (I think
)http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeoza...ing-of-the-worlds-most-valuable-soccer-teams/
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I'm sorry but there's no way we're the 10th most valuable football club brand in the world. I don't care what formula Forbes use. Just a simple knowledge of world football is all you need to understand how ridiculous that is.
Spurs bigger than Dortmund, AC Milan, Inter Milan, Juventus, Roma, Ajax, Benfica...
No chance.
Spurs bigger than Dortmund, AC Milan, Inter Milan, Juventus, Roma, Ajax, Benfica...
No chance.
Soldado
Lamela
Paulinho
Capoue
Stambouli
Bostock
Etc
We pay big money for European and Worldwide talent. We stunt their growth. We're pretty good at ruining careers.
We ARE City and Chelsea. Just not as rich and our owner is slightly less cunty. He's still a cunt though. You can't have that much money without being a cunt at some point. They are better at buying success than we are.