Only you could claim to be backing the team whilst advocating selling half of it. I’m not sure you even know what you write anymore. It’s all nonsense.
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Only you could claim to be backing the team whilst advocating selling half of it. I’m not sure you even know what you write anymore. It’s all nonsense.
Following on from my other point, I look back at the Juve game and that tall defender that marked Kane got a card early, again when didn't we focus on this. If we got the ball to Kane... the player would have to make a choice:
a: go in for a late challenge and risk getting sent off
or
b: let the player go and risk him scoring or creating an opportunity.
It's part of the game and we need to wise up to this, play a few 50/50 balls, draw in challenges...
a: go in for a late challenge and risk getting sent off
or
b: let the player go and risk him scoring or creating an opportunity.
It's part of the game and we need to wise up to this, play a few 50/50 balls, draw in challenges...
It’s called restructuring you moron
SAF was good at it but you have to be ruthless
Just woke up Joe?
How’s the hangover?
Still get a full English inside you and you can start your daily routine again
Pathetic
I was up at half 6 which you’d have noticed if you’d applied the same level of forensic detail that you do with most of my posts. Stop wriggling, you can’t claim to be backing the team whilst wanting half of it sold. It makes you look silly - surely you can see that?
Just admit you had a hissy fit Bazali. Other folk notice as well.
It is about being ready when it matters most.
We beat United without 'pace and creativity' with pretty much the same players.
Pochettino's last test.
One small step and all that..
My memory like a sieve but I believe you!
If we have got to the point where Baz is the biggest heel on the forum then we have had a bloody good spring clean round here!
Watford, West Brom, Newcastle lets just put in a professional performance and put them away
My take is I think this iteration of the team has run its course and although I never push a transfer this time round we do need a couple of fresh faces at the back and a decent second striker to welcome in the stadium
No just you and your buddy Sammy
Not the most well balanced duo are you?
Forensic detail?
You’re completely obsessed
I regard the pair of as sad lonely misfits with no life
You’re probably now doing your usual trick of trying to get me banned like you do ArcespacE and, no doubt, a few others who disagree with you
Really sad
So I repeat my earlier offer of not engaging and giving other Forum Users a break
But you can’t can you
Thought for the day.
It took Alex Ferguson 5 years to win his first trophy at Man Utd and 7 to win the league, Poch will only have been with us for 4 years in May...
It took Alex Ferguson 5 years to win his first trophy at Man Utd and 7 to win the league, Poch will only have been with us for 4 years in May...
It is quite apologetic stuff right here. And I don't agree with most.
1) You cannot say that Poch does not have any ways to influence what happens on the field. I mean even the way you ask it - there are solutions. "What exactly does Poch say to the players to stop Dembele from losing the ball to Pogba" - "Look, Moose, this here is a CUP SEMIFINAL. This is what our fans live for, this is what they support us for! It is big day for them, it is big day for us. We have NO ROOM to slip up. If you feel that you are under too much pressure, rather kick the ball out, as WE HAVE VERY LITTLE ROOM in this stage, we cannot slip, errors are fatal!". How about that for example?
And even if we assume that he could not say that or anything else that could help, over the 15 minutes pause you should be able to inflict some fighting spirit into players. You have to be able to alter things when you see they are not working. Sure I cannot say WHAT EXACTLY and HOW exaclty. If I could I would be among top coaches of the world. I am not, but I have seen effect that Alex Fergusson interval speetches had. Quite recently I saw how quite average ManUnited managed to turn the game around after half time against City. HELL, I saw how ManU was mature enough to beat us in this very game after falling behind.
2) Well, sure, we have had some good games as well. Many of them. I don't think anyone here argues with that. But I really don't like your examples -
- getting a point after Anfield - well, yea, sure. But in the same game we missed a chance to take all 3 points as well. And whole game started with our players sound asleep that gave Pool early lead (which is absolutely unaccpetable)
- getting back into Juve game - again example of a total mess WE CREATED FOR OURSELVES! This start to the 1st game was unaccptable. And in the end you know what happened still
- winning Palace to stay in race last year- two rounds after that we still chocked against Wet Spam.
I agree with the away win at Chelsea - this was impressive. But the underlying point is that we have managed to undo the good results still before the trophies are distributed...
3) Continually losing our best players due to financial reasons - that is huge load of bullcrap. Do you realize that we have managed to keep the BIGGEST stars for ourselves - we still have best striker in league with Kane, we have one of best playmakers in Eriksen, we have solid keeper in Lloris, we have superb attacking mids like Alli and Son. Sure we had to depart with Walker, but ALL teams loose players. ManU is now without Ibra, Chelsea lost Matic and Costa and Luiz (and are still in FA final). This is very poor excuse, given that we have manage to really keep most pivotal players of late.
I mean I am not stating that it is end of the world. I just don't agree with those excuses listed here.
Agree with all listed facts but to make it complete and the whole truth you have to add one line "No trophy to show"
Absolutely but it is not complete. Please do more research work and put how long it took Mournho, Wenger, Ranierie at Leicester, Gullit at chelsea, Harry at pompey......and many more to win a trophy.
One example is narrow minded, limited and sounds convenient.
I don't know mate.
Of course Poch does have ways to influence what goes on. We're not privy to his team talks, obviously it's not as easy as all that, as you suggest, otherwise we'd all be top managers. I think it's harsh to blame individual player mistakes on a manager especially without us really knowing what goes on behind the scenes.
Looking at your examples, yes we don't play at our best all the time, we start some games badly etc. That is always true of any team though. At our best, as in the first 25 minutes on Saturday, and parts of the tie against Juventus, we look as though we can beat any team in the world. At other times, we look relatively average. If you were a Liverpool fan you could look at the first half against City (in CL) and say "we should play like that all the time, we should have won the league etc". For one thing, it's impossible to keep up that intensity without the players getting tired. But it's also true that no team plays its best all the time.
As for losing players, true that every team does. But- stating the obvious- we don't have the cash to replace them in the way other teams do. United can spend however much on Alexis Sanchez when they lose Ibra etc.
It's extremely frustrating to fail to win something again and to come up short in a big game once more. Maybe you're right that Poch lacks man management skills, I don't know how any of us can judge this though, really. Maybe he's just not as good as Mourinho at this, who does appear to get the best out of his players. But Mourinho isn't an option for us, and Poch is still learning his trade. And also a lot of players have improved massively under Poch. Overall I think he's done a fantastic job and that's about all I can judge. So I will keep the faith in him and see what happens. If he does have a problem managing big games let's hope he sorts it. If it's more a case of other things, let's hope we deal with those problems.
Or closer to home Keith Burkinshaw Manager between 14 July 1976 to 31 May 1984. Relegated in first year and first trophy May 1981. 5 years
cant be bothered to read all the replies so this may have been said already, but if you look at each game in isolation, didnt they go with form?
Chelsea were top of the elague both times and UTD are 7 points clear.
Its not like when we were losing to portsmouth etc
Its weird isnt it mate......call for someone to be benched, your´re a shit fan, but calling for 6 players to be sold immediately is backing the team. Its just backing the team with a "few changes"...
Also weird to defend our performance on the basis that Dier nearly won it for us, then call for his immediate sale.
We played well, but apparently the game showed that 6 players need to be replaced on the back of it according to the same poster.
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We played well, but apparently the game showed that 6 players need to be replaced on the back of it according to the same poster.
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Your advocating the sale of six players off the back of one game??
I wasn't ready to laugh at this until we got the trophy, but fuck it, it's still true at the moment:
Pochettino Accuses Spurs Players of Being "Bottlers"
Pochettino Targets Champions League Final Meltdown
Pochettino Accuses Spurs Players of Being "Bottlers"
Pochettino Targets Champions League Final Meltdown