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Can you back that up with anything credible?
{Nice hit and run 'disagree' from the poster there.... Fucking idiot!]
That's how recruiters think, not me. Willy Sagnol got in trouble for stating his opinion about that 3 years ago
Got to admit, I planted my arm on the desktop to find out my shade.
the premise is ill conceived and incorrect and a barrage of people are telling him this, and cunting him off. Education and the stick is better than sweeping it under the carpet. It s a great thread as it shows most on here are decent types (even though they try the best not to show it) and also highlights the proper wronguns.Perhaps, but like him I also have an opinion, the premise is ill conceived and incorrect.
Most if not all recognise his guile and craft alongside his pace and power, very specific to him and no generalisations were stated
So far that wider debate hasn't been achieved as a matter of fact it's regressed to 'light black not black black' or some bulshittery like that.
We're a club of Walter Tull and Ledley King. We've just acquired fingers crossed a potential global superstar.
I reiterate kill this unnecessary embarrassing thread
source?Lighter skinned black dudes are treated better. Thats a fact
What black player is praised for skill and awareness? I cant think of many? I mean real black, not lighter shades like Henry.
Tammy Abraham |
Earl Barrett |
Fraizer Campbell |
Nathaniel Clyne |
Keith Curle |
Kieron Dyer |
Kieran Gibbs |
Callum Hudson-Odoi |
Zat Knight |
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain |
Cyrille Regis |
John Salako |
Raheem Sterling |
Theo Walcott |
Callum Wilson |
Gabriel Agbonlahor |
Darren Bent |
Andrew Cole |
Tony Daley |
Ugo Ehiogu |
Joe Gomez |
Paul Ince |
Aaron Lennon |
Carlton Palmer |
Micah Richards |
Jadon Sancho |
Daniel Sturridge |
Des Walker |
Ian Wright |
Trent Alexander-Arnold |
Ryan Bertrand |
Steven Caulker |
Ashley Cole |
Brian Deane |
John Fashanu |
Andy Gray |
David James |
Joleon Lescott |
Paul Parker |
Kieran Richardson |
Trevor Sinclair |
Danny Thomas |
Kyle Walker |
Shaun Wright-Phillips |
Dele Alli |
Luther Blissett |
Mark Chamberlain |
Carlton Cole |
Jermain Defoe |
Les Ferdinand |
Emile Heskey |
Jermaine Jenas |
Jesse Lingard |
Chris Powell |
Michael Ricketts |
Chris Smalling |
Michael Thomas |
Danny Wallace |
Ashley Young |
Viv Anderson |
Jay Bothroyd |
Gary Charles |
Stan Collymore |
Fabian Delph |
Rio Ferdinand |
Ricky Hill |
Glen Johnson |
Jake Livermore |
Marcus Rashford |
David Rocastle |
Dominic Solanke |
Andros Townsend |
Mark Walters |
Wilfried Zaha |
John Barnes |
Wes Brown |
Nathaniel Chalobah |
Laurie Cunningham |
Dion Dublin |
Anthony Gardner |
Tom Huddlestone |
Ledley King |
Ruben Loftus-Cheek |
Nathan Redmond |
Danny Rose |
Brian Stein |
Darius Vassell |
Danny Welbeck |
Bobby Zamora |
source?
I like that you crossed out Sol Campbell.There you go. Pick the bones out of that. Quite a few skilful players in this list. A lot of them a 'real' black (whatever this means)
You do talk a load of nonsense!
Tammy Abraham Earl Barrett Fraizer Campbell Nathaniel Clyne Keith Curle Kieron Dyer Kieran Gibbs Callum Hudson-Odoi Zat Knight Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Cyrille Regis John Salako Raheem Sterling Theo Walcott Callum Wilson Gabriel Agbonlahor Darren Bent Sol CampbellAndrew Cole Tony Daley Ugo Ehiogu Joe Gomez Paul Ince Aaron Lennon Carlton Palmer Micah Richards Jadon Sancho Daniel Sturridge Des Walker Ian Wright Trent Alexander-Arnold Ryan Bertrand Steven Caulker Ashley Cole Brian Deane John Fashanu Andy Gray David James Joleon Lescott Paul Parker Kieran Richardson Trevor Sinclair Danny Thomas Kyle Walker Shaun Wright-Phillips Dele Alli Luther Blissett Mark Chamberlain Carlton Cole Jermain Defoe Les Ferdinand Emile Heskey Jermaine Jenas Jesse Lingard Chris Powell Michael Ricketts Chris Smalling Michael Thomas Danny Wallace Ashley Young Viv Anderson Jay Bothroyd Gary Charles Stan Collymore Fabian Delph Rio Ferdinand Ricky Hill Glen Johnson Jake Livermore Marcus Rashford David Rocastle Dominic Solanke Andros Townsend Mark Walters Wilfried Zaha John Barnes Wes Brown Nathaniel Chalobah Laurie Cunningham Dion Dublin Anthony Gardner Tom Huddlestone Ledley King Ruben Loftus-Cheek Nathan Redmond Danny Rose Brian Stein Darius Vassell Danny Welbeck Bobby Zamora
Why do you think its applicable in the UK?I have only ever seen us studiesStudy: lighter-skinned black and Hispanic people look smarter to white people
New research sheds light on a form of racial bias that doesn't get talked about as much as it should.www.vox.comColourism – how shade bias perpetuates prejudice against people with dark skin
The racism that underpins colourism must be challenged.theconversation.comShades of black - UGA Today
Everyone knows about the insidious effects of racism in American society. But when it comes to the workplace, African Americans may face a more complex situation-the effects of their own skin tone.news.uga.edu
Mostly American based but I think it's applicable to Europe and else where.
source?
Why am I quoted here?the premise is ill conceived and incorrect and a barrage of people are telling him this, and cunting him off. Education and the stick is better than sweeping it under the carpet. It s a great thread as it shows most on here are decent types (even though they try the best not to show it) and also highlights the proper wronguns.
I just thought you would be interested.Why am I quoted here?
We live in the UK, the US have their own issues.Hollywood
I think the UK largely mirrors U.S society. It's the least racist country in Europe but there are still problems.Why do you think its applicable in the UK?I have only ever seen us studies
If you're talking about within society then you've got a point but Henry has received racism despite his shade.
I hear you, sad but true.Good to hear but there are supporters that wouldn't.
Fair do’s but I don’t believe it’s either cutting him off or sweeping anything under the carpet.the premise is ill conceived and incorrect and a barrage of people are telling him this, and cunting him off. Education and the stick is better than sweeping it under the carpet. It s a great thread as it shows most on here are decent types (even though they try the best not to show it) and also highlights the proper wronguns.
What do you mean "recruiters"?
"most people see black players as physical first."
You said, it... You did not attribute the sentiment to anyone else.
There's a reason someone would get shit for saying that... It's because it's unfounded bollocks.. A myth you're post happily perpetuates further (it's not like you were questioning the sentiment is it?).
Edit: Bordeaux coach Willy Sagnol apologises for 'African' remark
Your reference is way off anyway...
Sagnol was the one perpetuating the racial sterotype about players... WDF you even talking about?????