Racism in football - Ndombele and Sissoko

[VoiceOfThePoshSeats]

I think this is a classic example. We have signed Ndombele, who to me looks technically brilliant, has an eye for a pass (7 assists last year). Hes obviously a very intelligent player.

But the press will focus on his pace and power. Same with Pogba, the double p raises its ugly head.

The you have our player of the year Sissoko who has to take a back seat for Winks. Who has never been more than a bench player for Spurs when we have a full squad.

Why is the Sissoko Ndombele combination not fancied? Its because its perceived to have a lack of intelligence. You need to stick a white guy in there to get that.

It smacks of racism IMO. Maybe not the hardcore 1980s racism, but the tones are still present. Black people are strong and stupid.

What black player is praised for skill and awareness? I cant think of many? I mean real black, not lighter shades like Henry.

 

[ArtyB]

What black player is praised for skill and awareness? I cant think of many? I mean real black, not lighter shades like Henry.

Off the top of my head, Pele and Eusebio were lauded back in the day as well as Laurie Cunningham from the racist 80's....

Edit: Jay Jay Okocha is another example.

 

[ArtyB]

I'm not a great fan of this modern trend of perceiving slights on other peoples behalf...it's extremely condescending to assume what may or may not upset them and it's compounded by having the cheek to think that they need you to defend them too....

 

[Achilles]

Can we get a definitive list of how black you have to be to be "real black?"

I assume you are basing one's level of real blackness on the casual racist's handy Pantone chart of skin tones.

 

[Mariner]

Please kill this thread. Its pointless and embarrassing

 

[cretinousgoat]

I think this is a classic example. We have signed Ndombele, who to me looks technically brilliant, has an eye for a pass (7 assists last year). Hes obviously a very intelligent player.

But the press will focus on his pace and power. Same with Pogba, the double p raises its ugly head.

The you have our player of the year Sissoko who has to take a back seat for Winks. Who has never been more than a bench player for Spurs when we have a full squad.

Why is the Sissoko Ndombele combination not fancied? Its because its perceived to have a lack of intelligence. You need to stick a white guy in there to get that.

It smacks of racism IMO. Maybe not the hardcore 1980s racism, but the tones are still present. Black people are strong and stupid.

What black player is praised for skill and awareness? I cant think of many? I mean real black, not lighter shades like Henry.

One of the dumbest posts I've ever had the misfortune to read. WTF is wrong with you

 

[Tottenham Sean]

Interesting fact for all you youngsters.
During the war and up until rationing was done away with,young ladies use to rub Camp Coffee into their legs to make it look like they were wearing stockings. The look was given the finishing touch by drawing a seam up the back using an eyebrow pencil.

 

[HeroesAndVillains]

yeah fully agree.
could be an interesting discussion to have - looking at the lack of high level black keepers, asian centre halves and such - but not under this thread really

I think it is because black people never evolved to hold round things, as round things do not exist in Africa. While in Europe, a lot of things are round.

Now Asians not being centre-halves, that's a difficult one... But I think it's because they don't understand the concept of halves. They either have it whole or nothing.

 

[B-0-Sspurs]

But on a serious note:

It's unavoidable that some charasteristics of players from different countries form as stereotypes. It doesn't mean it's racist.

Germans - Machines
Spaniards - Technical
Dutch - Tactical masterminds
Brits - Cunts

These traits are true, to an extent.

And the French - cheese eating surrender monkeys

 

[WookieD]

Off the top of my head, Pele and Eusebio were lauded back in the day as well as Laurie Cunningham from the racist 80's....

Edit: Jay Jay Okocha is another example.

Don’t feed the troll! There are countless players and we all know that... bloody hell CHELSEA, that hotbed of multi racial tolerance recently had a black player have an entire position named after him in deference to his skill and intelligence!

 

[Joe Clash]

What black player is praised for skill and awareness? I cant think of many? I mean real black, not lighter shades like Henry.

Fat Ronaldo. The most skilful player I’ve seen. You’re odd. But that’s no surprise on here. I really don’t want to think what you’re driving at.

 

[Joe Clash]

The Thread.

Well you need to finish the sentence Nabs. Dim twats like myself could get confused.

 

[Kingjewell2017]

WOW AND YOU CUNTS SAY I TALK BOLLOCKS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Airfixx]

He has a point.... my American friend said "now we have 2 big niggaz bossing the midfield" talking about Sissoko and Ndombele. I don't like that kinda language. Is he a racist? of course not, he's half-black himself. But it's funny most people see black players as physical first.

Can you back that up with anything credible?

{Nice hit and run 'disagree' from the poster there.... Fucking idiot!]

 

[mikes01666]

What black player is praised for skill and awareness? I cant think of many? I mean real black, not lighter shades like Henry.

There you go. Pick the bones out of that. Quite a few skilful players in this list. A lot of them a 'real' black (whatever this means)

You do talk a load of nonsense!

Tammy Abraham

Earl Barrett

Fraizer Campbell

Nathaniel Clyne

Keith Curle

Kieron Dyer

Kieran Gibbs

Callum Hudson-Odoi

Zat Knight

Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain

Cyrille Regis

John Salako

Raheem Sterling

Theo Walcott

Callum Wilson

Gabriel Agbonlahor

Darren Bent

Sol Campbell

Andrew Cole

Tony Daley

Ugo Ehiogu

Joe Gomez

Paul Ince

Aaron Lennon

Carlton Palmer

Micah Richards

Jadon Sancho

Daniel Sturridge

Des Walker

Ian Wright

Trent Alexander-Arnold

Ryan Bertrand

Steven Caulker

Ashley Cole

Brian Deane

John Fashanu

Andy Gray

David James

Joleon Lescott

Paul Parker

Kieran Richardson

Trevor Sinclair

Danny Thomas

Kyle Walker

Shaun Wright-Phillips

Dele Alli

Luther Blissett

Mark Chamberlain

Carlton Cole

Jermain Defoe

Les Ferdinand

Emile Heskey

Jermaine Jenas

Jesse Lingard

Chris Powell

Michael Ricketts

Chris Smalling

Michael Thomas

Danny Wallace

Ashley Young

Viv Anderson

Jay Bothroyd

Gary Charles

Stan Collymore

Fabian Delph

Rio Ferdinand

Ricky Hill

Glen Johnson

Jake Livermore

Marcus Rashford

David Rocastle

Dominic Solanke

Andros Townsend

Mark Walters

Wilfried Zaha

John Barnes

Wes Brown

Nathaniel Chalobah

Laurie Cunningham

Dion Dublin

Anthony Gardner

Tom Huddlestone

Ledley King

Ruben Loftus-Cheek

Nathan Redmond

Danny Rose

Brian Stein

Darius Vassell

Danny Welbeck

Bobby Zamora

 

[Nutter-Naylor]

Ir just how.clueless the average white guy is to what brown and black people have to put up with

Is that light brown or dark brown?

 

[Tottenham Sean]

....Or frappachino?

I was going to mention Camp Coffee,but thought that would be bringing homophobia into the mix as well.

 

[Nutter-Naylor]

I was going to mention Camp Coffee,but thought that would be bringing homophobia into the mix as well.

 

[Radical Rei]

I don't use the disagree button very often but this shit thread deserves it.

 

[Clynelish]

A disagree to my opinion on cheese?!?

Funny as fuck however, not allowed an opinion anymore, it seems!!

The other day I got a disagree when I posted a song in the 'What are you listening to at the moment?'-thread.