Too early for this shit.
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I stupidly listened to 606 for the first time in a long time on Sat. Their excuse for never mentioning spurs in the title race was Wembley. They didn’t explain how Liverpool and Woolwich still get mentioned. If we can’t finish ahead of City, those two jokes of clubs have no chance
What's crazy is the bookies now have City as 1.25 (or 1/4) to win the league. We've played what, 8 games? 9? That's almost the same odds as they were to beat Burnley at home. They think essentially that City just need to do the equivalent of winning an easy home game to seal up the title.
I would put City as maybe evens or just below to win it, they look by far the most likely but you can't rule out us, Chelsea or United.
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City were unstoppable at this point last season. Until they got stopped.To win the league we will need to beat City home and away.
As Blanchflower said, our destiny is in our own hands. We get a couple of players back from injury soon as well to fatten the squad dept.
How far we go in Europe and the other cups will end up being a factor as well ofc
Sure, but personally, I'd like to see a bit of expectation-management among the fanbase.
As many posters have said here and elsewhere, top 4 this season, with no home ground, would be a major achievement. A CL cup run would be a bonus. Domestic silverware of any sort, mainly just to kill the "haven't won anything" crap, would be phenomenal.
I hope we would celebrate that, and cheer the boys on, rather than moaning that we haven't won the Leagueor we aren't challenging the Arabs. I'm all for aiming high, but the whole ethos of this club now is 'building to greatness' - and we need to support that - every week and all season. Don't get too high and arrogant, don't get too low and critical.
I'm one of the forum old farts. I've supported this club for nearly 50 years and this, believe me, is the best of times. I now travel 6 hours there and back to watch us at Wembley, every game, because now is when this team needs support, in transition. If we give it support now it will stay together.
We need to be the exception to the other 5, every single one of them has lost their way, and by 'we' I mainly mean 'us' - the fans.
Oh do fuck off.Seriously, I don't honestly think we will get top four, let alone win the league. The Wembley hoodoo is to bigger an obstacle for us, and I don't see us picking up many points against the top sides.
It’s the whole Wembley vibe for me. Sure, it’s great that we can raise a 73500 crowd against a team like Bournemouth (no disrespect to them but they aren’t a PL heavyweight) but the whole thing just feels very flat. Pockets of fans trying to get an atmosphere going from time to time, but it fades on the wind. I’m sure the players feel it too.I still feel worried about Wembley. We don't look right there in the games against the smaller teams. We'd need to go on a really good home run to convince me we can challenge. It's all about adapting to playing there, and how long this takes to happen (if at all). As Sammy said, it's a massive disadvantage and means we are really up against it when you also look at how well City are playing and the other advantages they have over us.
I think we look good for top three/four though.
Fair enough but personally I reckon MK would have taken on a cult atmosphere like Fulham.
Also think the players would have played more like at WHL as it actually looks very similar, and not a red seat in sight.
The waiting list issue could have been resolved another way. There was absolutely no reason to force people to sign up for Wembley in order to but one at the new WHL. Should have simply prioritized loyalty and made the rest first come first served.
I get that financially it suits the chairman, but far from propelling us into the world stage, teams are just coming there and taking the piss out of our fans. There were chants of "your grounds too big for you" yesterday, from Bournemouth fans ffs!
We can take 80k and all we will get is talk about the 10k empties anyway.
Also I don't buy the talk of STs missing out at MK and it being unfair. People saying the STs are no shows at Wembley.....so...
Not gonna go through it all again, but if Wembley holds us back on the pitch it can't be the right choice. Corporate and financial reasons are not my reasons.
Don't forget the other 18 teams, Ahab, I don't think they'd give it to us for just beating City home and away. ochlol:To win the league we will need to beat City home and away.
They were absolutely points dropped.Another 1 v Chelsea and 2 against Burnley and Swansea and the league table looks very different. And they were all points dropped IMO.