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EPL | EL | |||
NON-HG (15) | NON-HG (17) | |||
1 | LLORIS | LLORIS | 1 | |
2 | GAZZANIGA | GAZZANIGA | 2 | |
3 | AURIER | AURIER | 3 | |
4 | ALDERWEIRELD | ALDERWEIRELD | 4 | |
5 | SANCHEZ | SANCHEZ | 5 | |
6 | DIER | DIER | 6 | |
7 | SISSOKO | SISSOKO | 7 | |
8 | NDOMBELE | NDOMBELE | 8 | |
9 | LAMELA | LAMELA | 9 | |
10 | LO CELSO | LO CELSO | 10 | |
11 | BERGWIJN | BERGWIJN | 11 | |
12 | MOURA | MOURA | 12 | |
13 | SON | SON | 13 | |
14 | HOJBJERG | HOJBJERG | 14 | |
15 | FOYTH | FOYTH | 15 | |
DAVIES | 16 | |||
GEDSON | 17 | |||
HG (6) | ASSOCIATION (3) | |||
1 | ALLI | ALLI | 1 | |
2 | HART | HART | 2 | |
3 | DAVIES | SESSEGNON | 3 | |
CLUB TRAINED (3) | ||||
4 | WINKS | WINKS | 1 | |
5 | KANE | KANE | 2 | |
6 | ROSE | ROSE | 3 | |
SQUAD TOTAL: 21 | SQUAD TOTAL: 23 | |||
EPL | EL | |||
SQUAD OF 25 | SQUAD OF 25 | |||
MAX 17 NON-HG | MAX 17 NON-HG | |||
IF 17 NON-HG | IF 17 NON-HG | |||
MAX 8 HG | MAX 8 HG | |||
(MAX 4 ASSOCIATION) | ||||
U21 on 1st Jan in | year season starts | |||
(UNDER 21) | LIST B (UNDER 21) | |||
No restrictions | With Spurs 2 years | |||
EPL | EL | ||
NON-HG (16) | NON-HG (18) | ||
1 | LLORIS | LLORIS | 1 |
2 | GAZZANIGA | GAZZANIGA | 2 |
3 | AURIER | AURIER | 3 |
4 | ALDERWEIRELD | ALDERWEIRELD | 4 |
5 | SANCHEZ | SANCHEZ | 5 |
6 | DIER | DIER | 6 |
7 | REGUILON | REGUILON | 7 |
8 | HOJBJERG | HOJBJERG | 8 |
9 | SISSOKO | SISSOKO | 9 |
10 | NDOMBELE | NDOMBELE | 10 |
11 | LAMELA | LAMELA | 11 |
12 | LO CELSO | LO CELSO | 12 |
13 | BERGWIJN | BERGWIJN | 13 |
14 | MOURA | MOURA | 14 |
15 | SON | SON | 15 |
16 | VINICIUS | VINICIUS | 16 |
DAVIES | 17 | ||
GEDSON | 18 | ||
HG (9) | ASSOCIATION (4) | ||
1 | HART | HART | 1 |
2 | DOHERTY | DOHERTY | 2 |
3 | ALLI | ALLI | 3 |
4 | DAVIES | CLARKE | 4 |
CLUB TRAINED (5) | |||
5 | WHITEMAN | WHITEMAN | 1 |
6 | CCV | CCV | 2 |
7 | WINKS | WINKS | 3 |
8 | KANE | KANE | 4 |
9 | BALE | BALE | 5 |
SQUAD TOTAL: 25 | SQUAD TOTAL: 27 | ||
EPL | EL | ||
SQUAD OF 25 | SQUAD OF 25 | ||
MAX 17 NON-HG | MAX 17 NON-HG | ||
IF 17 NON-HG | IF 17 NON-HG | ||
MAX 8 HG | MAX 8 HG | ||
(MAX 4 ASSOCIATION) | |||
U21 on 1st Jan in | year season starts | ||
(UNDER 21) | LIST B (UNDER 21) | ||
No restrictions | With Spurs 2 years | ||
It's better to keep Gedson in the EL squad than Gazza. Outfield players are more likely to get injured. So a backup CM will probably get more minutes than a 3rd choice keeper.Thanks. Very useful.
I'm optimistic and assume we're going to be strong in the PL as well as all the cups. If we do make a push in the PL, then I can see situations where Mourinho will want to keep key players fresh by resting them in the easier EL group games.
If this logic is correct, then I suspect Mourinho will be very tempted to include Gedson in the EL squad as extra midfield legs, which would necessitate Gazza dropping out for either Whiteman or Austin.
My sense is that if either Aurier or Sissoko had left in this window, Mourinho would have promoted Gedson to their squad place. Obviously both stayed. But Gedson's best chance of getting game time is surely in the EL. So if we don't select him in the squad, I see almost no point in keeping him around.
As far as Spurs are concerned we have 2 British players Dier and Davies.
Because Dier started his career in Portugal he is classed as non-HG for both the ECL and EPL.
Because Davies started his career in Wales he is classed as non-HG for ECL but not EPL.
All our other British players are classed as HG.
Unless you care about how the issue affects other clubs that's basically it.
Edit: Foyth (similar to Dier) will have spent his early career in England so from season 2020-21 he will be considered HG for both ECL and EPL.
EPL | ECL |
SQUAD OF 25 | SQUAD OF 25 |
MAX 17 NON-HG | MAX 17 NON-HG |
IF 17 NON-HG | IF 17 NON-HG |
MAX 8 HG | MAX 8 HG |
(MAX 4 ASSOCIATION) | |
U 21 ON 1ST JAN IN | YEAR SEASON STARTS |
(UNDER 21) | LIST B (UNDER 21) |
No restrictions | With Spurs 2 years |
EPL | ECL |
NON-HG (15) | NON-HG (17) |
LLORIS | LLORIS |
GAZZANIGA | GAZZANIGA |
AURIER | AURIER |
ALDERWEIRELD | ALDERWEIRELD |
VERTONGHEN | VERTONGHEN |
SANCHEZ | SANCHEZ |
DIER | DIER |
SISSOKO | SISSOKO |
WANYAMA | WANYAMA |
ERIKSEN | ERIKSEN |
NDOMBELE | NDOMBELE |
LAMELA | LAMELA |
LO CELSO | LO CELSO |
MOURA | MOURA |
SON | SON |
DAVIES | |
PARROTT | |
HG (7) | ASSOCIATION (2) |
DAVIES | SESSEGNON |
ALLI | ALLI |
CLUB TRAINED (4) | |
KWP | KWP |
ROSE | ROSE |
WINKS | WINKS |
GEORGIOU | |
KANE | KANE |
SQUAD TOTAL: 22 | SQUAD TOTAL: 23 |
EL rules: Dier was trained in Portugal. Non-HG.
EPL rules: Dier was trained in Portugal. Non-HG.
EL rules: Davies was trained in Wales. Non-HG.
EPL rules: Davies is HG.
EL rules: Sessegnon has not been with us 2 years: Association.
EPL rules: Sessegnon: U21.
EPL Gedson is U21, EL Gedson is Non-HG.
EPL EL NON-HG (15) NON-HG (17) 1 LLORIS LLORIS 1 2 GAZZANIGA GAZZANIGA 2 3 AURIER AURIER 3 4 ALDERWEIRELD ALDERWEIRELD 4 5 SANCHEZ SANCHEZ 5 6 DIER DIER 6 7 SISSOKO SISSOKO 7 8 NDOMBELE NDOMBELE 8 9 LAMELA LAMELA 9 10 LO CELSO LO CELSO 10 11 BERGWIJN BERGWIJN 11 12 MOURA MOURA 12 13 SON SON 13 14 HOJBJERG HOJBJERG 14 15 FOYTH FOYTH 15 DAVIES 16 GEDSON 17 HG (5) ASSOCIATION (3) 1 ALLI ALLI 1 2 HART HART 2 3 DAVIES SESSEGNON 3 CLUB TRAINED (2) 4 WINKS WINKS 1 5 KANE KANE 2 SQUAD TOTAL: 20 SQUAD TOTAL: 22 EPL EL SQUAD OF 25 SQUAD OF 25 MAX 17 NON-HG MAX 17 NON-HG IF 17 NON-HG IF 17 NON-HG MAX 8 HG MAX 8 HG (MAX 4 ASSOCIATION) U21 on 1st Jan in year season starts (UNDER 21) LIST B (UNDER 21) No restrictions With Spurs 2 years
We are maxed out Non-HG in EL so we need to sell or loan Gazza (?), Foyth (?) before we can add.
We have 1 HG slot available in EL assuming Hart signs.
EL rules: Dier was trained in Portugal. Non-HG.
EPL rules: Dier was trained in Portugal. Non-HG.
EL rules: Davies was trained in Wales. Non-HG.
EPL rules: Davies is HG.
EL rules: Sessegnon has not been with us 2 years: Association.
EPL rules: Sessegnon: U21.
EPL Gedson is U21, EL Gedson is Non-HG.
EPL EL NON-HG (15) NON-HG (17) 1 LLORIS LLORIS 1 2 GAZZANIGA GAZZANIGA 2 3 AURIER AURIER 3 4 ALDERWEIRELD ALDERWEIRELD 4 5 SANCHEZ SANCHEZ 5 6 DIER DIER 6 7 SISSOKO SISSOKO 7 8 NDOMBELE NDOMBELE 8 9 LAMELA LAMELA 9 10 LO CELSO LO CELSO 10 11 BERGWIJN BERGWIJN 11 12 MOURA MOURA 12 13 SON SON 13 14 HOJBJERG HOJBJERG 14 15 FOYTH FOYTH 15 DAVIES 16 GEDSON 17 HG (5) ASSOCIATION (3) 1 ALLI ALLI 1 2 HART HART 2 3 DAVIES SESSEGNON 3 CLUB TRAINED (2) 4 WINKS WINKS 1 5 KANE KANE 2 SQUAD TOTAL: 20 SQUAD TOTAL: 22 EPL EL SQUAD OF 25 SQUAD OF 25 MAX 17 NON-HG MAX 17 NON-HG IF 17 NON-HG IF 17 NON-HG MAX 8 HG MAX 8 HG (MAX 4 ASSOCIATION) U21 on 1st Jan in year season starts (UNDER 21) LIST B (UNDER 21) No restrictions With Spurs 2 years
We are maxed out Non-HG in EL so we need to sell or loan Gazza (?), Foyth (?) before we can add.
We have 1 HG slot available in EL assuming Hart signs.
Yes the limit is on squad size with a maximum on non hg. All the squad can be hg if you want.Yeah, I know that. I was saying that I believe you can have more than 8 HG if you want? You just reduce the non-HG accordingly?
toothy SpursidolNo we are ok we have only 16 overseas trained players listed )one less than maximum 17) so can nominate 5 players (rather than 4) trained by other clubs affiliated to The FA to get to the maximum 25 man squad (with 4 club trained players.
Interesting that CCV is included as a Club Trained player even though it sounds as if he is off to Bournenouth now.
EL rules: Dier was trained in PortugaL: Non-HG.
EPL rules: Dier was trained in Portugal: Non-HG.
EL rules: Davies was trained in Wales: Non-HG.
EPL rules: Davies: HG.
EL rules: Gedson: Non-HG.
EPL rules: Gedson: U21.
EL rules: Clarke has not been with us 2 years: Association.
EPL rules: Clarke: U21.
EPL EL NON-HG (16) NON-HG (18) 1 LLORIS LLORIS 1 2 GAZZANIGA GAZZANIGA 2 3 AURIER AURIER 3 4 ALDERWEIRELD ALDERWEIRELD 4 5 SANCHEZ SANCHEZ 5 6 DIER DIER 6 7 REGUILON REGUILON 7 8 HOJBJERG HOJBJERG 8 9 SISSOKO SISSOKO 9 10 NDOMBELE NDOMBELE 10 11 LAMELA LAMELA 11 12 LO CELSO LO CELSO 12 13 BERGWIJN BERGWIJN 13 14 MOURA MOURA 14 15 SON SON 15 16 VINICIUS VINICIUS 16 DAVIES 17 GEDSON 18 HG (9) ASSOCIATION (4) 1 HART HART 1 2 DOHERTY DOHERTY 2 3 ALLI ALLI 3 4 DAVIES CLARKE 4 CLUB TRAINED (5) 5 WHITEMAN WHITEMAN 1 6 CCV CCV 2 7 WINKS WINKS 3 8 KANE KANE 4 9 BALE BALE 5 SQUAD TOTAL: 25 SQUAD TOTAL: 27 EPL EL SQUAD OF 25 SQUAD OF 25 MAX 17 NON-HG MAX 17 NON-HG IF 17 NON-HG IF 17 NON-HG MAX 8 HG MAX 8 HG (MAX 4 ASSOCIATION) U21 on 1st Jan in year season starts (UNDER 21) LIST B (UNDER 21) No restrictions With Spurs 2 years
Window closed. Provisional squads above.
EPL squad is kosher at 25.
EL squad we need to lose one non-HG.
It's between Gedson and Gazza IMO.
If he keeps Gazza then Whiteman will be dropped and that is 25 total.
If he keeps Gedson then Whiteman will stay and one other association or club trained player must be dropped.
Highly likely to be CCV so maybe slight chance Jose keeps Clarke and plays him in any dead rubber games?
How is he overseas in the EPL ?And if Rodon joins - overseas trained for both UEFA and EPL
Still a space for Rodon in the EPL side, but not in UEFA squad until January (and then only if we offload an overseas trained player) ?
I can only guess that there is something in the contract that prevents us from cancelling Gedson's loan.I think we have to leave 2 foreign trained players out of our EL squad. Guess it will be Gazza and Gedson but given these are the only matches they would likely play before the January window it feels a bit crap on them. My main annoyance about this window is we havent sorted this issue out.