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TonySoprano said:
People wonder why Hitchen lost his job. He should never work in any recruitment position ever again.

What a fucking disaster our recruitment was pre Paratici. Fixing the mess he inherited is much harder than people think.
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I blame a combination of Hitchin and the mangers at the time.

Hitchin was a 'Chief Scout' , not a DoF, so the senior 'football' person involved was the manager who was either directly of indirectly his boss and had a degree of involvement in the football decisions being made. Managers interview players well before they are signed so any personality/mentality/aspirational potential issues should be spotted and addressed, and not come as a surprise after signing.
 
Worth a quick recall of recent windows under Paricicti :

Summer 2021 (for Nuno)
Romero, Royal, Gil, Sarr, Gollini (loan) (5 players)

January 2021
Bentancur, Kulusevski (2 players)

Summer 2022
Richarlison, Bissouma, Perisic, Spence, Forster, Lenglet (loan) Udogie (loaned out) (7 players)

January 2023
Porro, Danjuma (2 players)

A nice blend of experienced players for the 'here and now' and ones mainly to develop for the future..... and I think all improve the squad, recognising that Royal was bought as a RB for a back 4 etc.

Some of the summer 2022 players still to really reproduce the form they have showed before, but that's not unusual - Son had a rocky first season before becoming a consistent 20+ scorer/assist maker for about 5 seasons. And nobody brings in players who are 100% successful, but Paraciti's failure rate is reassuringly low

As always, another window or two should show continued squad development
 
No surprises, new signing in January in blue

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Updated Premier League squad lists for 2022/23

After the January 2023 transfer window closed, see the players registered by clubs for the rest of the season
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25 Squad players (*Home grown)
Austin, Brandon Anthony*
Bentancur, Rodrigo
Bissouma, Yves
Davies, Benjamin Thomas*
De Andrade, Richarlison
Dier, Eric Jeremy Edgar
Forster, Fraser Gerard*
Groeneveld, Arnaut Danjuma
Hojbjerg, Pierre Emile Kordt
Heung-Min, Son
Kane, Harry*
Kulusevski, Dejan
Leite De Souza Junior, Emerson Aparecido
Lenglet, Clement
Lloris, Hugo
Perisic, Ivan
Porro Sauceda, Pedro Antonio
Rodrigues Moura Da Silva, Lucas
Romero, Cristian Gabriel
Sanchez Mina, Davinson
Sessegnon, Kouassi Ryan*
Skipp, Oliver William*
Tanganga, Japhet Manzambi*
Whiteman, Alfie Malik*

U21 players (Contract and Scholars)
Abbott, George Benedict
Ajayi, Oyindamola Oluwatobi Peter
Akhamrich, Yusuf
Andiyapan, William
Arganese-McDermott, Pele
Ashcroft, Tyrell
Black, Leo Amarri John-Baptiste
Bloedorn, Carey Brian
Bloxham, Thomas Joel
Bowden, Jamie Patrick
Bryan-Waugh, Brandon
Cassanova, Dante Jamel
Cesay, Kallum
Chaplin, Archie Baptiste
Craig, Matthew George
De Santiago Alonso, Yago
Devine, Alfie Sean
Donley, Jamie Paul
Dorrington, Alfie Terry Charlie
Fagan-Walcott, Malachi Michael
Gil Salvatierra, Bryan (First team squad on loan)
Gunter, Luca Jackson
Hall, Tyrese Shaun
Hayton, Adam Paul
Heaps, Billy
Irow, Oliver
John, Nile Omari Mckenzie
Keeley, Josh
King, Maeson Bradley
Krasniqi, Elliot
Kyerematen, Rio
Lankshear, William
Linton, Jahziah
Maguire, Aaron Joseph
Mathurin, Roshaun Andre
McKnight, Maxwell
Morgan, Kieran Lloyd
Muir, Marqes
Mundle, Romaine Lee
Owen, Riley Jay
Parrott, Troy Daniel (on loan)
Paskotsi, Maksim
Robson, Max
Rowswell, James Patrick Lynch
Sarr, Pape Matar (first team squad)
Sayers, Charlie
Scarlett, Dane Pharrell (On loan)
Simons, Zachariah Martin
Soonsup-Bell, Jude Jacob
Udogie, Iyenoma Destiy (First team squad 2023/24)
White, Harvey David (on loan)
Willhoft-King, Gabriel Han
Williams, Jaden Pharell Earl
 
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Spursidol said:
No surprises, new signing in January in blue

www.premierleague.com

Updated Premier League squad lists for 2022/23

After the January 2023 transfer window closed, see the players registered by clubs for the rest of the season
www.premierleague.com www.premierleague.com

5 Squad players (*Home grown)
Austin, Brandon Anthony*
Bentancur, Rodrigo
Bissouma, Yves
Davies, Benjamin Thomas*
De Andrade, Richarlison
Dier, Eric Jeremy Edgar
Forster, Fraser Gerard*
Groeneveld, Arnaut Danjuma
Hojbjerg, Pierre Emile Kordt
Heung-Min, Son
Kane, Harry*
Kulusevski, Dejan
Leite De Souza Junior, Emerson Aparecido
Lenglet, Clement
Lloris, Hugo
Perisic, Ivan
Porro Sauceda, Pedro Antonio
Rodrigues Moura Da Silva, Lucas
Romero, Cristian Gabriel
Sanchez Mina, Davinson
Sessegnon, Kouassi Ryan*
Skipp, Oliver William*
Tanganga, Japhet Manzambi*
Whiteman, Alfie Malik*

U21 players (Contract and Scholars)
Abbott, George Benedict
Ajayi, Oyindamola Oluwatobi Peter
Akhamrich, Yusuf
Andiyapan, William
Arganese-McDermott, Pele
Ashcroft, Tyrell
Black, Leo Amarri John-Baptiste
Bloedorn, Carey Brian
Bloxham, Thomas Joel
Bowden, Jamie Patrick
Bryan-Waugh, Brandon
Cassanova, Dante Jamel
Cesay, Kallum
Chaplin, Archie Baptiste
Craig, Matthew George
De Santiago Alonso, Yago
Devine, Alfie Sean
Donley, Jamie Paul
Dorrington, Alfie Terry Charlie
Fagan-Walcott, Malachi Michael
Gil Salvatierra, Bryan
Gunter, Luca Jackson
Hall, Tyrese Shaun
Hayton, Adam Paul
Heaps, Billy
Irow, Oliver
John, Nile Omari Mckenzie
Keeley, Josh
King, Maeson Bradley
Krasniqi, Elliot
Kyerematen, Rio
Lankshear, William
Linton, Jahziah
Maguire, Aaron Joseph
Mathurin, Roshaun Andre
McKnight, Maxwell
Morgan, Kieran Lloyd
Muir, Marqes
Mundle, Romaine Lee
Owen, Riley Jay
Parrott, Troy Daniel
Paskotsi, Maksim
Robson, Max
Rowswell, James Patrick Lynch
Sarr, Pape Matar (first team squad)
Sayers, Charlie
Scarlett, Dane Pharrell
Simons, Zachariah Martin
Soonsup-Bell, Jude Jacob
Udogie, Iyenoma Destiy (First team squad 2023/24)
White, Harvey David
Willhoft-King, Gabriel Han
Williams, Jaden Pharell Earl
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Hope Barnsley won't mind us leaving Adam Hayton on our u21 list!
 
sudoku said:
And BLF is not on the list.
I know they have got hundreds of players from all the clubs to deal with but this is a fecking multi-million pound industry. They can't employ competent people?
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BLF is aged 22, so cannot appear on u21 list.

In Spurs u21 matches he is technically an 'over age' player who is a Spurs player but not registered in squad of 25 to play in PL matches. Would also be eligible to play in FA cup matches.

So not a mistake I think
 
Spursidol said:
BLF is aged 22, so cannot appear on u21 list.

In Spurs u21 matches he is technically an 'over age' player who is a Spurs player but not registered in squad of 25 to play in PL matches. Would also be eligible to play in FA cup matches.

So not a mistake I think
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Of course.
My stupid mistake.
 
Here's a list of the under 21 squad as listed on the OS with their approximate best positions:

MFAshcroft, Tyrell
MFBowden, Jamie Patrick
CBCassanova, Dante Jamel
RBCesay, Kallum
MFCraig, Matthew George
MFDevine, Alfie Sean
CBFagan-Walcott, Malachi Michael
MFJohn, Nile Omari Mckenzie
GKKeeley, Josh
CBLyons-Foster, Brooklyn (over age)
GKMaguire, Aaron Joseph
MFMathurin, Roshaun Andre
CBMuir, Marqes
MFMundle, Romaine Lee
STParrott, Troy Daniel (on loan)
RBPaskotsi, Maksim
MFRobson, Max
MFDe Santiago Alonso, Yago
CBSayers, Charlie
STScarlett, Dane Pharrell (on loan)
 
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Maybe not really the thread for it but... this is quite interesting. We're really missing his influence in defence.

 
sudoku said:
Here's a list of the under 21 squad as listed on the OS with their approximate best positions:

MFAshcroft, Tyrell
MFBowden, Jamie Patrick
CBCassanova, Dante Jamel
RBCesay, Kallum
MFCraig, Matthew George
MFDevine, Alfie Sean
CBFagan-Walcott, Malachi Michael
MFJohn, Nile Omari Mckenzie
GKKeeley, Josh
CBLyons-Foster, Brooklyn (over age)
GKMaguire, Aaron Joseph
MFMathurin, Roshaun Andre
CBMuir, Marqes
MFMundle, Romaine Lee
STParrott, Troy Daniel (on loan)
CBPaskotsi, Maksim
MFRobson, Max
MFDe Santiago Alonso, Yago
CBSayers, Charlie
STScarlett, Dane Pharrell (on loan)
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That is total nagging, but techincally Maksim Paskotši is mainly a RB. He has played on the fullback position when used for Spurs in preseason games, and for Estonian NT he also mainly plays RB. It seems that in last 2 games he played for our U21 (surprisingly wins against Dippers and Arsescum) he played in LB. His build is not for playing CB either, so...

But generally - thanks for the all the posted info :) !
 
Spursidol said:


To only have one player in the current first team squad just 2 years later really shows how poor our recruitment has been.

Not to mention summer 2019 to bring in Ndombele, Lo Celso, Sessegnon and Clarke ...... with one player still left in current first team squad
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Well... not that I would like to argue much.
But from the 7 players, 2 were loans (Bale and Vinicius) and let's be honest here - Hart was ageing GK brought for peanuts who was never expected to hang around long.

But agreed in that sense, that 2019 was much worse overall impact. With transfer fees + salaries, 200+ mil spent and we got fucking nothing to show for it :( .

In fact as said later - our scouting and recruiting was absolute fuckup in period of 2016-2021. Just shocking really. Without some outstanding performers like Kane and Son we would have been in so deep shit.
 
TheSpurEst said:
Well... not that I would like to argue much.
But from the 7 players, 2 were loans (Bale and Vinicius) and let's be honest here - Hart was ageing GK brought for peanuts who was never expected to hang around long.

But agreed in that sense, that 2019 was much worse overall impact. With transfer fees + salaries, 200+ mil spent and we got fucking nothing to show for it :( .

In fact as said later - our scouting and recruiting was absolute fuckup in period of 2016-2021. Just shocking really. Without some outstanding performers like Kane and Son we would have been in so deep shit.
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I think we went for Rodon because Jose couldn't get Kim for cheap. Only PEH was a decent signing....

It just shows how bad Levy/ENIC has been........
 
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