Home Opener (vs. Stoke), 15 Aug, 15:00 BST

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Mason, also unexperienced

Losing Kane and then Mason turned the game in their favour.

Chadli is also not worth a fuck but the only other regular scoring midfielder we have bar Eriksen.

I would have had Carroll come on for Kane and kept Dembele out on the right.

We never lost 2points because of our transfer policy. It wasn't MP's subs.

And if Lamela would have started on the right nobody would have moaned.

It was circumstance that led to the team changing.

Mason is 24, that's old, ask SchmoodSpur2013 SchmoodSpur2013 . ;-)

It would do as we had no good options once they were off AND, bear in mind we knew they weren't 100% fit before the game (weeks ago).

So he's worth a fuck for goals, could be worse, like a lot of our squad.

Carroll - lol

Baffling, both are directly related, there aren't the quality options we need. We have one unfit striker. Maybe the game would've still been a draw, big maybe.

Some would, especially if he'd played like that.

Circumstances are what the club are supposed to plan for. You can't plan for them all but if you have one striker and a lack of fitness, form and limited experience across midfield and attack then you're asking for trouble from tiredness in a game, one knock, one illness, one family bereavement or one red card....a high enough percentage that one would happen.
 
Funnily enough, seeing as we were subbing our ONLY striker (and at 2-0 up) assuming Lamela was always gonna be Kane's replacement, would it have been so hard to imagine bringing WIMMER on when Mason came off (instead of Bentaleb) and pushing Toby into the holding midfield...? at least we'd have had 4 CD on the pitch!! We may not have scored a 3rd, seeing as all our creative/attacking spark went off with Kane, but we certainly would've looked more solid in the middle with Toby & Dier, and put us in a stronger position to just see the game out!

'twas just a thought... with my Monday Morning Hindsight Manager head on!!
 
I love a lost cause but Lamela is the exception, i think he needs to be loaned out for a season. Let him get some game time and some confidence because the player we have atm is broken.
 
Come on then butterfly. Find a quote where I said 24 is old.

I'll wait.

It was you that challenged it being young, I said it wasn't a kid or a youngster but 24 and a few days is young.

The 'old' jibe in that last post was just fucking about but you decided to cry about it so sorry for me being so insensitive.

Tell you what; 24 isn't young and isn't old, we can both be right.
 
It was you that challenged it being young, I said it wasn't a kid or a youngster but 24 and a few days is young.

The 'old' jibe in that last post was just fucking about but you decided to cry about it so sorry for me being so insensitive.

Tell you what; 24 isn't young and isn't old, we can both be right.
thought as much. walk on.
 
We really need Rose back fit. Diouf is a handful but Davies should've done better at both goals.

I think Rose offers us more, but this was probably one of the best games Davies played for us and he didn't do too badly at OT either.

How could Davies do better for the pen...take the gloves off Hugo and try and save it? Second goal was a combination of three things: shit tracking back, a lapse by the centre back to allow Diouf a free run and a bloody good cross from Ireland. Nothing to do with Davies.
 
You might not have said "24 is old", but your stance was definately in that vien
Nope, my stance was that Stambouli cannot be used to prove Simmo's assertion that we'll buy any old tosh if they're young enough combined with sell-on value.

As I said, saying someone isn't a youngster is not the same as saying they were old.

I asked him to prove his point with examples. He chose Yedlin (fair enough), Stambouli (lol) and Wimmer. Wimmer being completely unproven one way or t'other.
 
thought as much. walk on.

I've bought into your prick-ness and retaliated then tried to be reasonable. You seem to be mistaking tolerance and reason for weakness. If you want to win something then good luck, you called me out for examples, you got them, you then tried to dilute them by arguing the nuances of whether 24 is young or really young, my original reference was 'young enough', I deemed somebody £4-5m and just turned 24 as cheap and young enough.

We had the youngest average match day XI at 25 last season and the start of this. So, as you're so obsessed with trying to win an argument that you're making the rules up to;

25 is the YOUNGEST average age of a Premier League starting XI and it's us.

We signed Stambouli at 24, that makes him younger than the youngest average.

I repeat; that is young enough, it is not a kid, it is not a youngster as such but it is YOUNG ENOUGH.

So I took the piss earlier about you thinking it's old because you'd been such a bell-end about it but, please go back to your wank mags safe in the knowledge that Stambouli is not jail-bait however, he's closer to the college girl section than the cougar section that's for sure.
 
I've bought into your prick-ness and retaliated then tried to be reasonable. You seem to be mistaking tolerance and reason for weakness. If you want to win something then good luck, you called me out for examples, you got them, you then tried to dilute them by arguing the nuances of whether 24 is young or really young, my original reference was 'young enough', I deemed somebody £4-5m and just turned 24 as cheap and young enough.

We had the youngest average match day XI at 25 last season and the start of this. So, as you're so obsessed with trying to win an argument that you're making the rules up to;

25 is the YOUNGEST average age of a Premier League starting XI and it's us.

We signed Stambouli at 24, that makes him younger than the youngest average.

I repeat; that is young enough, it is not a kid, it is not a youngster as such but it is YOUNG ENOUGH.

So I took the piss earlier about you thinking it's old because you'd been such a bell-end about it but, please go back to your wank mags safe in the knowledge that Stambouli is not jail-bait however, he's closer to the college girl section than the cougar section that's for sure.
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Nope, my stance was that Stambouli cannot be used to prove Simmo's assertion that we'll buy any old tosh if they're young enough combined with sell-on value.

As I said, saying someone isn't a youngster is not the same as saying they were old.

I asked him to prove his point with examples. He chose Yedlin (fair enough), Stambouli (lol) and Wimmer. Wimmer being completely unproven one way or t'other.

I missed this, I said Wimmer remains to be seen, who knows what he'll end up as for us but he was cheap at £4-4.5m and he's young at 22 (isn't he?). And you tell people to read, to think and to not twist your words but then keep repeating total bollocks.
 
After a weekend in the woods, tickling grizzlies and riding bison, I hoped to cap it off with a trouncing on my return.

Was pretty happy there for a bit.

2-0 is probably the most dangerous lead in football.

Along with not getting 3 points, when they tied it up, and I looked at the squad on the field, I was not optimistic we would pull it off. And we didn't.
 
As far as I can see it some of us were realistic about the state we were in before the season opener. It's a piss poor position to have left ourselves in, the one striker situation alone has already cost us today at least. CB at DM; already working with makeshift personnel.


Unfortunately I actually think we might have only 4pts max by the end of the month, I don't want us to have that few but I fear we may.

Need to finally get a win on the board against Everton next week to get this points prediction wrong. Thing is, before anybody starts, it's got nothing to do with 'I told you so' but everything to do with these things being blatantly obvious before the season started and now look where we are. Ok it's early days but the point is we've already pissed away crucial points.

The only positive to aim for now is having better than the 8pts in 6 games we had last year and then 11 in 9 I think it was. However, wasn't that playing first ever games under Poch's system with a load of deadwood that he's shipped out?? Not supposed to be still struggling to outperform that a year later are we!
 
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