Eric Dier

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TheSpurEst said:
I don't agree with it.

I have to mention that I did not see the 1st half (I was on concert) but in 2nd half he really seemed off-steam. On 75th minute he gave ball away in midfield in very-very dangerous situation that nearly cost us a goal. And out of interest I started looking at him more closely - basically since then he did not put a foot right. Gave some stray passes or totally hopeless crosses over the top and even some short passes he gave to teammates near center circle were hard to control.

I think if Poch decided to go with Dier from the start he could have brought on Wanyama on 65th. Dier really has played a lot, and some fresh energy wouldn't have hurt.
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You didn't look close enough, Dier spent the whole game moving backwards and forwards between midfield and defence, supporting both sections of the team with control and effectiveness.
The guy worked his socks off and was one of the reasons why we were able to pull back and stop them regaining control.
 
I want to like Dier more than I do, he is young, he is English, a lot of people who I respect their footballing knowledge hold him very highly, but I just get so irritated with him. He might have a stellar game, but then those 1 or 2 misplaced passes that people talk about pop up and he boils my blood.

I don't think people are out to get him because he gives the ball away a couple of times a game, more because when he does, it tends to be an absolute howler that leads to a goal or a goal scoring opportunity for the opposition and like someone mentioned it is usually in a big game or when its too close for comfort. If he gives the ball away and they score when we are 4-0 up, no one really cares.

I think a lot of fans prefer Wan because he has that crowd lifting ability, he could realistically do nothing in a game, but he runs aggressively. Dier is more calm, composed, goes unnoticed for the best part of every game. Hope he does get into the England squad and our boys can do well. Maybe get some of that top level experience in cups people keep saying we need haha.
 
Mick Cooper said:
You didn't look close enough, Dier spent the whole game moving backwards and forwards between midfield and defence, supporting both sections of the team with control and effectiveness.
The guy worked his socks off and was one of the reasons why we were able to pull back and stop them regaining control.
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I mentioned I did not see 1st half.

And also - it is very easy to throw all the good work to trash if that sloppy pass would have ended in Juve game, wouldn't it? All I was saying is that Wanyama could have played end of the game when he was tired. Unless ofc this dangerous giveaway was something to praise him for?
 
TheSpurEst said:
I mentioned I did not see 1st half.

And also - it is very easy to throw all the good work to trash if that sloppy pass would have ended in Juve game, wouldn't it? All I was saying is that Wanyama could have played end of the game when he was tired. Unless ofc this dangerous giveaway was something to praise him for?
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did they score from it?
 
Mick Cooper said:
You didn't look close enough, Dier spent the whole game moving backwards and forwards between midfield and defence, supporting both sections of the team with control and effectiveness.
The guy worked his socks off and was one of the reasons why we were able to pull back and stop them regaining control.
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i think you're both right. Dier played really well but late on in the game i counted 3 times in probably 5 minutes they broke dangerously from a simple misplaced Dier pass.
 
Not sure if Dier is the better option over Vic in the middle of the park in my opinion. He seems a step slower than he used to be and doesn't close out attacking players with anywhere near as much conviction as he used to and like Victor does. His distribution is very hit and miss which I would like to see some more consistency in, but I appreciate he does take on more risky passes than most of our DMs.

Honestly I think Poch was right when he said he'd make a better CB than DM, but we shall see how things go long term.
 
BAE32 said:
Not sure if Dier is the better option over Vic in the middle of the park in my opinion. He seems a step slower than he used to be and doesn't close out attacking players with anywhere near as much conviction as he used to and like Victor does. His distribution is very hit and miss which I would like to see some more consistency in, but I appreciate he does take on more risky passes than most of our DMs.

Honestly I think Poch was right when he said he'd make a better CB than DM, but we shall see how things go long term.
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There’s more chance of kelly brook giving me a barney Johnson than Eric dier being a competent CB. He gives the ball away far to often. In these run of massive games in the past two weeks he has given the ball away so many times in really dangerous positions.
 
yes well done to Eric, he's not a good passer, he can't go passed a player, but he's only played poorly in a handful of games since he signed for us
and he seems willing to drop into any position Poch askes him to play in
 
Him and Dele were our best players. Dier owned that CB position, this is no mean feet to be just dropped into that role having played DM most of this season but shows what an important player he is to us. People always focus on what he can't do, but never on what he can do or what he brings to the side.

Struggling to think of a single player as versatile as him in the League, probably Milner for Liverpool, another player always criticised but always there for his side, always the player trusted to play by their Manager and often picked ahead of another player who is a so-called specialist in that position.
 
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