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Fair enough. Although one transfer window, albeit promising so far, isn't enough for me to wipe away over 20 trophyless years and banter status a club of our size and stature should never have had to endure.
The disgraceful 2018-2019 cop out when we squandered all of Poch’s hard work while simultaneously raking in world record profits still leaves a whiff of suspicion and doubt for me, as do so many other actions and words that are too numerous to put into one post in this thread.
Remember. We still haven't won anything. I'm as open as anyone to changing my mind. But I need to see sustained results and squad investment before I jump the fence ,mate.
Did we not win anything because of lack of investment, or was it because we blew it? We've been in 3 finals, one of them being the CL, and countless semifinals in the past few years. The fact that we even got to them means we had a capable squad. The fact that we didn't win any of them is down to the manager, the players, and luck. It's not like we fielded ENIC's board of directors in those games. So spare me this tired "we haven't won a trophy, because ENIC didn't spend" argument.
As for investment, I don't know how many times it needs to be pointed out that when we had the resources we spent. If you want to complain, complain about the fact we didn't spend well. Complain about the fact that we didn't have top notch scouting and data analytics to identify and evaluate players properly. That's what I'm really pissed off about, because that was well within our means to establish.
But hey, if it gives you a rise to just keep rehashing the same old cliche of "we don't fucking spend, waaah," it's a free speech forum, so go for it. Don't be surprised or insulted if you are not taken seriously, however.
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If, as the anti Enic contingent claim, that everything that's wrong is Levy's fault then by the same token everything that's good must also be down to Levy.
This includes appointing Paratici and Conte, and taking a back seat. So Enic/Levy must absolutely get credit for that.
Appoints Jose - Levy's fault
Appoints Nuno - Levy's fault
Appoints Paratici - desperate/fall guy/lucky/no credit/
Appoints Conte - desperate/luck/fan pressure/no credit.
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If you want to make the assertion that Spurs should have won the league, then go ahead but no; that was not the convo at hand.
All of which are just as attainable as the next?
Oh please... Mate, you're smarter than this.
I have not mentioned "luck".
You are the one however that suggested that we have hired a succession of "incapable" managers (inc. Poch whom as far as I could tell from prev. convos you rated).
Being the 6th richest(*) team in the world's most competitive league might just have something (i.e. a whole damn lot!) to do with that..... A country who's trophy haul has been dominated by petro-doping during the same 20 year spell in question.
(*Admittedly, 5th for a season or two and now back down to 6th thanks to NC.)
Meanwhile, you're genuinely suggesting that Arse have a few FACups under their belt over the last decade because - contrary to their entire fanbase! - they're 'built for trophies'?
There's no element of good fortune to the fact that they faced Hull, Villa & Birmingham City in cup finals?
Arse beat Chavski in 2020 cos Arteta was an elite manager and they had the best squad?
Martinez & Wigan pipped City for similar reasons?
Again, I'm not claiming bad luck; but finals can be a lottery and the simple fact is getting to finals whilst ALSO bagging 3rd and 4th place finishes very much suggests one's team HAS been good enough to bag a trophy or two along the way.
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Imagine getting angry at something that hasn't happened yet in the future
Why is this terrible timing and the previous 5225786311367853213567884213567789975422445789909864 polls on the subject not ?
Lol at some of the replies.
This question was asked back in April 2021 but this time round it's premature, we should wait until the transfer window closes etc.. etc..
Stupid fucking poll, the guy who posted it is a cunt anyway. Respect to those still voting No as you have your opinion and you're a fucking nightmare to be around :dierpochhug:
This question was asked back in April 2021 but this time round it's premature, we should wait until the transfer window closes etc.. etc..
Stupid fucking poll, the guy who posted it is a cunt anyway. Respect to those still voting No as you have your opinion and you're a fucking nightmare to be around :dierpochhug:
What's really funny is that when a similar poll was held following the carnage of Mourinho/Mason, The ESL scandal and NunoGate the result was pretty much in reverse.
More proof of the emotional hold Mr Levy seems to hold over our fan base
Nothing has really happened yet. All we've seen is a statement and a couple of free transfers yet everyone can't get back into bed with the guy quick enough!
We still haven't, you know.......won anything for like 15 years!!
Like some massive, guilt ridden sense of loss has been pulling at the heartstrings ever since the fateful day you dared vote the other way.
I'm sure he forgives you all guys
JT: Not at all intending to goad or troll people....... Never... No........ Not one bit.....
70% of people on the forum have "Stockholm Syndrome" and don't know their own mind, that's all.
#NotOneBrick
Voted in.
Enic far from perfect but looking at our direct rivals (Citeh, Chavs, Utd, Woolwich, Newcs, Everton, Spam) - their owners are either sport washing despots, plunderers, or tinpot dildo merchants). Only Dippers seem well run compared with us.
Enic far from perfect but looking at our direct rivals (Citeh, Chavs, Utd, Woolwich, Newcs, Everton, Spam) - their owners are either sport washing despots, plunderers, or tinpot dildo merchants). Only Dippers seem well run compared with us.
Back with the manager fiasco, the superleague, then when Nuno was sending us spiralling downwards and the admin looked in disarray, I was creeping over the line towards wanting them gone. They looked like clueless amateurs and us and the footballing community were chastising Levy on a weekly basis. It was really depressing and more than a bit exhausting.
Now? In. No question. The stadium’s properly up and running and finally feels like our palace at last, Levy publically admitted he’d fucked up in the Poch-era so now they’ve got a bloody amazing manager who’s got us in the CL and they’re going all out to back him.
Right this moment, things feel really good. Like fantastic. I love that buzz. If they’re genuine about wanting this to keep gaining momentum and using the funds to make us proper challengers on all fronts once more, then what’s not to like? They know the consequences as well as any if they try and cut corners here on out. The camera’s are on them 24/7 in this day and age and we’re not like some lower level championship team hiding out of site. We’re Spurs and we’re massive.
Now? In. No question. The stadium’s properly up and running and finally feels like our palace at last, Levy publically admitted he’d fucked up in the Poch-era so now they’ve got a bloody amazing manager who’s got us in the CL and they’re going all out to back him.
Right this moment, things feel really good. Like fantastic. I love that buzz. If they’re genuine about wanting this to keep gaining momentum and using the funds to make us proper challengers on all fronts once more, then what’s not to like? They know the consequences as well as any if they try and cut corners here on out. The camera’s are on them 24/7 in this day and age and we’re not like some lower level championship team hiding out of site. We’re Spurs and we’re massive.
Good points from both sides of the debate. Very few people get it right every time, and by the same token, few always get it wrong.
All I know is that for the first time in ages, I'm really hopeful and excited for the forthcoming season. It may all end in tears, but I'm choosing to be optimistic, which is probably inviting trouble.
I'm happy flying under the radar with the media, let's hope that when it comes to the business end of the season, we'll have made a lot of so-called experts eat their words.
I think we've been patient enough, let's go and bury the opposition and critics. We need to start believing we can be successful.
All I know is that for the first time in ages, I'm really hopeful and excited for the forthcoming season. It may all end in tears, but I'm choosing to be optimistic, which is probably inviting trouble.
I'm happy flying under the radar with the media, let's hope that when it comes to the business end of the season, we'll have made a lot of so-called experts eat their words.
I think we've been patient enough, let's go and bury the opposition and critics. We need to start believing we can be successful.
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Isn’t Lenglet a LCB?We've wanted the bald cunt out!!
But Levy in!! or innish...?
We needed a second striker...we got a very decent second striker with Richarlison
We needed a leftwingback...we got Perisic (old but not that old)
We needed a CM really really bad...we got one of the best CMs out there with Bissouma
We needed RB and now we have a very decent young RB with Spence.
We dont talk about forster. Who cares about forster.
Still need a LCB (cue the wrath of davies worshippers) and and maybe a longer term LWB instead of Perisic but this has been a very decent upgrading of the squad.
So well done to the ones in charge of this window . Feeling very confident about the squad. But then again i felt very confident that Ndombele would be great.
ffs not this again, ENIC have provided their managers with players, infrastructure and finances which are capable of picking up more than 1 fucking trophy in 20 odd years.
The thread is about Enic. The post you quoted was about poch and you literally changed it to Kane just to say he is a bottler.
You are obsessed and a fucking weirdo.
Poch didn't bottle matches yet he's the one who played Son at LWB in the Cup Semi against Chelsea when he had Davies onthe bench then what a shock Son conceded a penalty, then the following year he played Vorm in goal over a fit Lloris then what a shock Vorm concedes a goal in which Lloris would have saved, then on the eve of the CL final he told the whole world and his squad he planned to quit the club and played a half fit Kane in the final and then...
But yea let's blame ENIC shall we...The lie sounds better than the truth though I suppose.
But yea let's blame ENIC shall we...The lie sounds better than the truth though I suppose.
How many good managers have Liverpool had in the last 20 years 1, 2?
How many have Man United had? 1
How many have Woolwich had? 1
How many have have Everton or West Ham or Leicester ?
I won't include Chelsea or Man City for obvious doping reasons.
How many have we had? 3 Redknapp, Poch, Conte
I'd say on the time frame Levy has done alright. Sure we've had duds, who hasn't?
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