What's the difference between the Champions League and the Europa League?!
And on that bombshell, Ladies and Gentlemen, I'm out.
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And on that bombshell, Ladies and Gentlemen, I'm out.
Ok, questioning fan loyalty was a bit too far. Apologies for that. I'm angry.
I just think that Villa would have been a better time to rotate players than today. I fully understand that Poch didn't expect us to lose THIS badly and hopefully be able to make up for it at The Lane, but you can't tell me with a straight face when you saw that lineup you felt good about our chances today.
I don't disagree. Some asked me who I consider as "world beating" teams. My definition is that you need a team that could realistically could win the Champions League. This side would maybe reach the quarter-finals, but I think they would stuggled against a topped Woolwich or us.
Poch must have thought Dortmund was still bottom of their league like Karl August. Underestimated them greatly.
Bundesliga is average? Okay, mate, okay
Reaching the quarter-finals in the CL is really fucking good. And like I said, would beat any team they faced bar a select few.
That's what I said
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What makes a game against Shakhtar Donetsk or K.A.A. Gent better than Dortmund in the Europa League? The money? Because we fans certainly don't see any of the benefit, in fact I'd strongly supect the prices of tickets would go up for the spectacle of a game where booing the theme music is a finable offence.
It certainly showed that Chadli does not work hard enough up there...
Play another shit team in the return leg .
Play the best team in the league from know onwards .
Play the best team in the league from know onwards .
Apart from Bayern and Dortmund? Yes. Let's look at our Son. Best player for Leverkusen. Bang average for us..
Right...deep breaths taken. Dog walked round the block & head cleared.
Shocking performance but against a truly high quality side.
I would be amazed if Dortmund don't win it outright.
In other news, Manure are being schooled by the dippers. I'd be more pissed off if I was a united fan. At least BVB are one of the very best around
Shocking performance but against a truly high quality side.
I would be amazed if Dortmund don't win it outright.
In other news, Manure are being schooled by the dippers. I'd be more pissed off if I was a united fan. At least BVB are one of the very best around
Fighting for fop four it is... This side won't win the league, totally outclassed in Europa Cup when it gets to the business end... and out of the domestic cups.
There is a risk we go all Spursy now.... If don't get our act together.
Sorry but that performance was fucking awful.
We need to smash Villa now...
There is a risk we go all Spursy now.... If don't get our act together.
Sorry but that performance was fucking awful.
We need to smash Villa now...
I've said many times in recent weeks that people shouldn't get carried away with visions of glory, talk of winning the league or storming through the cups. I even predicted we would go out pretty much where we did in the FA Cup and where it seems we might go out of this. But people don't listen and once again set their hopes far too high and then feel crushed when defeats like this come along. When I urged caution a few weeks ago people rounded on me, one even telling me that I was talking shit for suggesting Poch is right when he says we should just take things game by game rather than getting carried away, yet here we are going through a rough patch during the latter half of the of the season and the usual subjects sit around crushed at a bad result. I just don't understand why people can't learn to be cautious and limit their celebrations for games won or the trophy when/if we actually win the thing, instead of celebrating winning competitions in their mind before we've crossed the finish line.
Anyhow, there's lots to consider right now:-
- Poch's teams have always drifted off late season. Anyone who has observed any of them before us knows this. Therefore it was always a possibility we might struggle a bit in the business end of the season and people should have prepared themselves for it.
- Because of the above, it made sense that with so much on the line in the league, we have to make a tough choice when it comes to rotating the squad. I think it was right that Poch try and rest some of the players that we need in the league, and really the squad depth should have been enough to still give them a better performance than we did. The only question I would raise, that was mentioned above, is whether or not we shouldn't fielded as a strong a side as we did in the group stages if Poch is now worried about tiredness (which is, of course, pure speculation)?
- Statistically teams who compete for the title are far more likely to go out of the cups than win cups. That's always been the case.
- In spite of the above, we are still 2nd. We have a game coming up that we are more likely to win than not and we're still the strongest in the league that we've been in 30 years. However it's done, if we get Champion's League football this season that would be a massive achievement. Poch would meet the expectations placed on his predecessors and, let's face it, the majority of us would have a finish that most of us didn't think likely at the start of the season. We have far, far more chance of CL through the league now than we do through the EL. It is right that Poch treats that as a priority and the counter argument to him playing too strong a side in the early stages against weaker opposition is that back then we did not know we'd be fighting for the league come March.
- Most importantly, we aren't out of this competition yet. Dortmund are the strongest team in this, but they aren't Barca and we aren't Villa. We can still give them a game at our place. Let's have hope. It is possible to still beat them and this team is capable of a comeback, however unlikely it might seems right now. Let's not treat ourselves as out until we actually are.
Anyhow, there's lots to consider right now:-
- Poch's teams have always drifted off late season. Anyone who has observed any of them before us knows this. Therefore it was always a possibility we might struggle a bit in the business end of the season and people should have prepared themselves for it.
- Because of the above, it made sense that with so much on the line in the league, we have to make a tough choice when it comes to rotating the squad. I think it was right that Poch try and rest some of the players that we need in the league, and really the squad depth should have been enough to still give them a better performance than we did. The only question I would raise, that was mentioned above, is whether or not we shouldn't fielded as a strong a side as we did in the group stages if Poch is now worried about tiredness (which is, of course, pure speculation)?
- Statistically teams who compete for the title are far more likely to go out of the cups than win cups. That's always been the case.
- In spite of the above, we are still 2nd. We have a game coming up that we are more likely to win than not and we're still the strongest in the league that we've been in 30 years. However it's done, if we get Champion's League football this season that would be a massive achievement. Poch would meet the expectations placed on his predecessors and, let's face it, the majority of us would have a finish that most of us didn't think likely at the start of the season. We have far, far more chance of CL through the league now than we do through the EL. It is right that Poch treats that as a priority and the counter argument to him playing too strong a side in the early stages against weaker opposition is that back then we did not know we'd be fighting for the league come March.
- Most importantly, we aren't out of this competition yet. Dortmund are the strongest team in this, but they aren't Barca and we aren't Villa. We can still give them a game at our place. Let's have hope. It is possible to still beat them and this team is capable of a comeback, however unlikely it might seems right now. Let's not treat ourselves as out until we actually are.
I'm happy to lose this game and go out, so we can focus on the league.. But why bring on dembele, lamela, and kane at the end?! why not just give them a full rest for villa? why?!
We didn't underestimated them. We gave fuck all. We hoped we could trail them for a lucky 0-0 or 1-0 by being organized defensive low playing. We wanted to take a "Leicester". Fuck, we had 23% possesion after first half. ..
Oh for fuck sake. Did you only view MOTD? Do you even know what type of club Dortmund is?