Bargain Hunt — Why Championship Talent Could See Spurs Advance

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Reidy said:
So you would be alright signing 5 players who just got their team relegated and replace players in our team, sitting third in the league, and that would be "improvement".

Grealish has had 7 good games this season and some think he's better than Van De Beek who is playing in the QF of the CL and in a team top of their league having scored over 100 goals??

Sign them if they are young and might develop. If they are 24 and haven't yet really played at the top level then there is something wrong.
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Put Grealish in that Ajax team and he would be playing in the quarters of the CL. Should we consider every Ajax player just because they are in the CL quarters

Is it his fault Villa prevented him from leaving and made him play another season in the championship?
Had he joined Spurs last summer right now he too would be in the CL quarters just like Van De Beek. Would that mean he is a better player than he is now?
 
sammyspurs said:
“Don’t want Champo players......
Sign players from Eredivisie!!!!!!”

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So you would be alright signing 5 players who just got their team relegated and replace players in our team, sitting third in the league, and that would be "improvement".

Grealish has had 7 good games this season and some think he's better than Van De Beek who is playing in the QF of the CL and in a team top of their league having scored over 100 goals??

Sign them if they are young and might develop. If they are 24 and haven't yet really played at the top level then there is something wrong.
 
reachingforthestars said:
So we haven't enjoyed the likes of Eriksen and Vertonghen? Not everyone has struggled like Janssen.
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That’s my point mate.....people slag off the Champo but forget it has a higher standard than most of the teams in Holland, France, Belgium and Portugal.

But name some random unknown kid with a bit of hype from one of those leagues and everyone wants us to spunk 60M on them
 
most league's in Europe are no better than the Championship, we need home grown players/English players so we have to look in the championship, are any of these in acticle good enough who knows until you try them, look at how well we have done buying cheap from aboard, even Sissoko has taken 2 poor seasons until he has started to play to a standard we need.at least buying a homegrown player means they can be in the squad unlike our foreign players
 
sammyspurs said:
That’s my point mate.....people slag off the Champo but forget it has a higher standard than most of the teams in Holland, France, Belgium and Portugal.

But name some random unknown kid with a bit of hype from one of those leagues and everyone wants us to spunk 60M on them
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I don't know much about the Championship. Who's up for grabs and could turn out good for us? If we assume players promoted would like to give it a go with their current clubs, that could rule out Max Aarons, Jamal Lewis, Ben Godfrey, Jack Clarke, Jack Grealish etc.

Now I haven't got enough insight, but that only leaves me with players like Jarrod Bowen, Daniel James and Che Adams. Bowen I'm not totally convinced about, but okay, he could do the same as Lamela. Daniel James I would love to acquire, just because of insane speed. If we really need a backup striker for Harry, I don't see why Che Adams couldn't warm the bench as well as anyone else. But to be honest I would rather like "some random unknown kid with a bit of hype" called Silas Wamangituka from Paris FC.
 
I'm all for signing big potential from the lower leagues, but by 23/24 potential is in the past and you need the real deal. I'm all for signing 18 year old showing the promising or having the raw materials to become something better, I'm not into signing players just because. We went after Grealish pre-season, we also went after De Jong pre-season. Try telling me the Championship player is better than the Ajax player. Try telling me there is a better centre half in the Championship than De Ligt. The league they play in is an indication of their capabilities, and lets face it De Jong and De Ligt will be playing at the very top next season.

But the original article was naming about 11 players with one potentially being a starter for us next season and a spend of about £200 million for the top 6 or 7 choices. We need 3 or 4 big players and maybe 2 or 3 young potential players.

Grealish didn't get a mention before he went off injured, came back, Villa won 7 in a row and Grealish became Messi.
 
Reidy said:
I'm all for signing big potential from the lower leagues, but by 23/24 potential is in the past and you need the real deal. I'm all for signing 18 year old showing the promising or having the raw materials to become something better, I'm not into signing players just because. We went after Grealish pre-season, we also went after De Jong pre-season. Try telling me the Championship player is better than the Ajax player. Try telling me there is a better centre half in the Championship than De Ligt. The league they play in is an indication of their capabilities, and lets face it De Jong and De Ligt will be playing at the very top next season.

But the original article was naming about 11 players with one potentially being a starter for us next season and a spend of about £200 million for the top 6 or 7 choices. We need 3 or 4 big players and maybe 2 or 3 young potential players.

Grealish didn't get a mention before he went off injured, came back, Villa won 7 in a row and Grealish became Messi.
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The league they play in is an indication of their abilities? The Eredivsie is on the whole bang average. The Holland team for quite a few seasons has been terrible with very little talent to select. Only now, in the last few years have players like DeJong and Deligt appeared. PSV have a couple of talented players, Lozano and another winger whose name escapes me, but look at Janssen and Locadia who scored goals for fun in Holland but have been rubbish in the PL. There is no guarantee players like Neres and Ziyech can transfer their talents to a better league either

VanDijk left Holland and played in Scotland for Celtic before joining Southampton and then Liverpool and look at him now. I didn't see anyone say that Van Dijk was world class when he played in Holland or in the Scottish League. Some players take time to develop. Grealish has taken a bit longer to come good but he is on the right road and might make a very clever signing for someone if Villa don't come up.
 
ElTel said:
The league they play in is an indication of their abilities? The Eredivsie is on the whole bang average. The Holland team for quite a few seasons has been terrible with very little talent to select. Only now, in the last few years have players like DeJong and Deligt appeared. PSV have a couple of talented players, Lozano and another winger whose name escapes me, but look at Janssen and Locadia who scored goals for fun in Holland but have been rubbish in the PL. There is no guarantee players like Neres and Ziyech can transfer their talents to a better league either

VanDijk left Holland and played in Scotland for Celtic before joining Southampton and then Liverpool and look at him now. I didn't see anyone say that Van Dijk was world class when he played in Holland or in the Scottish League. Some players take time to develop. Grealish has taken a bit longer to come good but he is on the right road and might make a very clever signing for someone if Villa don't come up.
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I get it, I do, there are Spurs fans limping about with erections thinking about Grealish. 7 good games and he's a superstar. See Villa won again without him. Perhaps we should be looking for Grealish and McGinn. Maybe SausageVince was right all along.

Van Dijk experienced big games against Barcelona etc, not Rotherham and Ipswich. Now £40million is the going rate for "Well he is homegrown"?

Any deals going with Ipswich. I mean they weren't good enough to stay in the Championship, but at least they don't play abroad.
 
Just bring Roles, Edwards and Shashoua through if we want attacking midfielders. They won't actually cost us anything and they're all incredibly talented players in their own right, who are each 19-20 years old. I have no actual issue with us buying english players, but for some reason a few people have a massive erection for buying 5-6 championship players and filling our gaps with those players. I don't see how we improve as a team if we're replacing Dembele, Eriksen, Alderweireld, etc. with some random 20 year old championship player at Ipswich. Do we want to win the title or drop back from city and Liverpool even further? Those sorts of signings should be on top of bringing in proper quality, not as our actual solution imo. Liverpool got in Robertson who has been great, and oxlade-chamberlain, but they also bought Keita, Fabinho, Salah, Van Dijk, Allison amongst others. Salah was the cheapest at 30 or so million. That's the sort of thing we need to do.
 
ElTel said:
Put Grealish in that Ajax team and he would be playing in the quarters of the CL. Should we consider every Ajax player just because they are in the CL quarters

Is it his fault Villa prevented him from leaving and made him play another season in the championship?
Had he joined Spurs last summer right now he too would be in the CL quarters just like Van De Beek. Would that mean he is a better player than he is now?
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Difficult question to answer really , if he'd come to Spurs he would have had to improve to get significant game time.
 
sammyspurs said:
That’s my point mate.....people slag off the Champo but forget it has a higher standard than most of the teams in Holland, France, Belgium and Portugal.

But name some random unknown kid with a bit of hype from one of those leagues and everyone wants us to spunk 60M on them
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Reidy said:
So you would be alright signing 5 players who just got their team relegated and replace players in our team, sitting third in the league, and that would be "improvement".

Grealish has had 7 good games this season and some think he's better than Van De Beek who is playing in the QF of the CL and in a team top of their league having scored over 100 goals??

Sign them if they are young and might develop. If they are 24 and haven't yet really played at the top level then there is something wrong.
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I’d rather Grealish than some random from a mid table Portuguese club
 
I think Sessegnons year in the Prem has shone a pinsharp spotlight on the gap between the first 2 steps of English football.

The Championship is an excellent competition, full of great battles, but it’s just not the Premier League. Look at Wolves, who bought their promotion. Ok they haven’t struggled this year, but they haven’t quite ripped it up like many of their fans thought they would. It’s just a completely different level.

For the most part, in my view, championship players are playing at that level because it’s their level.

From his list in the article I’d probably give him Robinson. With the rest of the names it’s a struggle to see who they would challenge/replace in our squad.
 
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