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Fair bit of overreaction as expected on here.

I think a lot of people started to think of Ange as the messiah after a really good start. This is the highest level of football he has ever managed at and the “we’ll score more than them” approach isn’t going to work with the forwards we have in our squad.

If you were ranking attacks in the Premier League, ours is a long way off Top 4.

Midfield? The same.

Defence? Romero and VDV are top centre backs, Udogie and Porro are good young wingbacks. The issue is that the high line exposes them constantly and when you’ve got attacking wingbacks expected to also play fullback, shit is bound to hit the fan.

The issue that Ange hasn’t addressed is that our forwards and midfield just aren’t good enough to create and score chances consistently against Premier League level defences. Yet he is pretending that it is, we’re playing high intensity football with a high line to create pressure in the final third, despite not being good enough which leaves us exposed at the back. We’re relying on our biggest weakness (our attack) to win us games.

Doesn’t take a genius to see similarities between what’s happening here and what happened under Conte and Mourinho. Back when we had those two, we had the best striker in the league and Son in his prime. played ultra defensive, counter attacking football despite having a dogshit defence. Now we’re playing ultra attacking football despite having a dogshit attack.

It’s just not going to work under Ange in the Premier League unless he’s given a top class front three and DM. You can only teach donkeys to pull carts. Levy isn’t going to give him those players. So Top 4 and a cup run is the best we can hope for.

Accept that and results like today are easier to swallow.
 
The_Sentry06 said:
What a miserable bunch you lot are. Let's go back to the manager roulette just 9 months into our rebuild.

Klopp, Arteta,etc. all had tough and difficult moments in getting to where they are now (Arse haven't won anything but to deny their quality is delusional). They were terribly inconsistent teams who stuck with their manager and spent money on their squads to get them to competing for titles. Klopp was called inflexible and stubborn for trying to play his "heavy-metal" football every game in his first season. Arteta was termed naive and out-of-his-depth in their dreadful first 2 seasons. Sound familiar?

They got the personnel they need and did make tweaks to their systems but overall, stuck to their principles and they're both better teams for it. Some of you are going mad suggesting wholescale changes game to game based on our performances.

Also, some of the revionism here is pretty funny. It's like some of you just support Spurs to be negative.
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People aren't saying sack Ange.

But he isn't learning and that's what is criminal.
 
Murphy said:
People aren't saying sack Ange.

But he isn't learning and that's what is criminal.
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Just because he doesn't make wholesale changes on a whim doesn't mean he isn't learning. Yes, he's made mistakes as well but there are plenty of instances this season where he has tweaked/made changes to benefit us. It's just the negatives that are imprinted on your minds.
 
Matt1882 said:
I don't even enjoy the wins at the moment.
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When was the last time you enjoyed football?

That's not a dig, I'm wondering myself. The feeling of following a hopeless club is draining. I'll be back next season but really the initial Conte hype felt like the club might turn the corner then they did the exact same shit they always do in the transfer market and Conte went sour from the start.
 
SausageVince said:
Ange is as useful as anyone. Levy is better than most, or all owners.

Our support is our issue. Soft, shite cunts
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He's presided over the most barren period in the football club's history while paying himself the highest boardroom salary in English football history and simultaneously turning us into a cash cow for ENIC

And you say he's the best!......

Good Grief......No wonder we're laughed at so much by rival fans who also sing "Daniel Levy, we want you to stay "
 
Murphy said:
People aren't saying sack Ange.

But he isn't learning and that's what is criminal.
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How do you know he isn't learning?

What does learning and development look like to you?
Snap the fingers and in one season the team knows how to win every game?

How confident are you in your ability to see the adjustments and tweaks being made to gameplans, especially when individual players may be letting the game plan down.
 
Shadydan said:
Yup, people won't like you for saying that but it's true.
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It’s complete and utter fucking stupidity, our fans are more or less the same as other top 6 fans. We’re not a different fucking breed of person.

Acting as if Woolwich fans aren’t little bitches or whiny and impatient, yet look where they are. Fan temperament has nothing to do with where we are and it’s absolute bullshit to suggest it does.

Battered and bullied and it’s whose fault? Some blokes in the stands or on the internet. New low for this place achieved.
 
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