Academy Successes - Best in the Country?

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"The chairman proposed a challenge to increase Tottenham's competitive level, but immediately [Luka] Modric left and we didn't get any of the targets I had identified, such as Joao Moutinho, Willian, Oscar or Leandro Damiao," Villas-Boas said in an interview with TVI.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...Tottenham-Chelsea-Oscar-Willian-transfer-news

Spurs statement refuting those claims
http://cartilagefreecaptain.sbnatio.../tottenham-hotspur-andre-villas-boas-comments

Yeah, I'm sure if he'd had financial backing like say a Chelsea manager he'd have been a success.....
 
Anyone who follows the academy knows that the lads coming through now in the 16 - 19 age group are something special.

Potentially between 6 - 10 Premier League players in those 3 year groups in my opinion, with 2 or 3 of those almost nailed on.

Carter-Vickers, Onomah, Veljkovic, Walker-Peters, Azzaoui, Winks, Oduwa, Ogilvie, Edwards, Georgiou, Maghoma.

All of those have the potential to play at the top level if they keep developing how they are currently, and keep their attitude up.
Heard good things about Azzaoui but know little of him myself. Can you shed some light?
 
You saying even more impressive than the Kane, Mason, Bentaleb, Pritchard, Rose age group then at the same age?
Probably, yes. That isn't to say for sure they will become better in a few years, there is a lot of development left, but I will be disappointed if none of them become first team regulars at Spurs. Disappointed and very surprised.
 
These are all journos quoting an THFC source. Surely you can't be that thick to miss that?

And if anything - proves an earlier point how little he was backed up at the time bearing in mind he just signed for us? It also exonerates him from quite a bit of unfair flack from peasant fans at the time

DoF making the signings irrespective of the manager's targets - sound familiar?

Jol - http://talksport.com/football/inter...ulham-levy-comolli-bale-and-more-141011118378

Ramos - http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/feb/13/juande-ramos-tottenham-hotspur-dnipro

We aren't talking about a "source" these are direct quotes Arcy. Besides, what's all this got to do with the subject at hand? Your laughable claim that AVB deserves a lot of credit for the success of our youth players.
I admire your devotion to him, but that's a bit of a stretch isn't it :avblol:
 
What the hell is a top level striker? We spunked 28m on an apparent "top level striker' and look what that got us.
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A top quality striker, to me, is one proven in our league- Bony for example, or at the highest level- Soldado for example. But the point is, had we made such a signing, whilst it would have satisfied the "big club, big signing, shows ambition" part of a lot of fans (myself included), we would not have seen Harry Kane rise to the fore. He would have remained a "prospect" on the bench/on loan. With the benefit of hindsight, that would have been a disaster for the player & the club. As you rightly say, we may have spunked a huge amount of money on a flop. It's hardly worked out with Bobby & it would have hindered Harry's progress. That was the point of the posting. We may as well just sit back & let Poch do his thing:pochsmirk:

There is an element of scouting though, Soldado is slow and not very strong relying on other players to set him up, quite simply not suited to the prem. People at the club are paid to identify top targets who would suit us and we ended up with Paulinho, Soldado and Capoue none of whom even looked that great under no tactics Tim let alone high tempo Poch.

That 26 million we spent hangs on us badly, we should not give up taking risks and spending some good cash just because we bought badly with the Bale money, 30 mil Sanchez has carried Woolwich for much of this season. If Poch is happy just promoting youth thats fine, but if he wants a top class striker to complement Kane and it costs 20 mil I think the least we owe him is some backing, one or two top signings could take us to the next level, we need to put the Baldini fuck ups behind us.
 
Richardo Moniz is an proponent of Coever Coaching

http://fiveinmidfield.com/2012/05/1...ver-and-the-philosophy-that-changed-football/




From Wiki
Wiel Coerver (Dutch pronunciation: [ˈʋil ˈkur.vər]; 3 December 1924 – 22 April 2011) was an association football managerfrom the Netherlands and the developer of the Coerver Method, a football coaching technique. He won the UEFA Cupwith Feyenoord Rotterdam in the 1973–1974 season.[1]

Coerver, who was born in Kerkrade, Limburg, was nicknamed “the Albert Einstein of Football”. He died in Kerkrade


The Coerver Method is a football coaching technique which Coerver created. By analysing videotapes of various great players including Pelé, he devised a new concept in football which advocates that skill could not only be inherent with the young players but could also be passed on in a comprehensive academic way. Under this technique, players progress in a structured manner, pyramidal, from basics of ball mastery to a tactically driven group attack. They would be exposed to the other essentials like Receiving and Passing, Moves (1v1), Speed and Lethal Finishing.[2]

The 1998 FIFA World Cup in France saw the first Coerver student, Boudewijn Zenden who played for the Netherlands national football team, make it to the FIFA World Cup.
 
Southampton is streets ahead, just off the top of my head...

Bale
Walcott
Oxlade-Chamberlaine
Lallana
Shaw
Ward-Prowse
Wayne Bridge

And West Hams is pretty decent

Defoe
Joe Cole
Lampard
Carrick
Rio Ferdinand
Tomkins
Noble
Glenn Johnson
 
Mate, it's fucking incredible. Bentaleb joined us at 17 after being turned away by several other clubs, so I'd include him in that list without hesitation.

To be playing in the upper reach of the Premier League and chasing a CL berth with 3 academy products nailed-on starters and others waiting in the wings is pretty unusual.

In terms of academy production I think we're leading the league at the moment along with Southampton on a par.

Agreed Bentaleb should be included, we got his career on track.
 
I think the thread is refering to recent success, West Ham haven't produced anyone for years.
I'm more interested in what their academy is doing now, not what they produced 20 years ago.
West Ham haven't produced anyone of note since Tomkins though and he broke through 6 years back. Nearly 20 years since Lampard and Ferdinand coming through...
Yeah fair enough, it was only a secondary thought anyway.
 
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Ricardo Moniz is the man who revolutionised our academy apparently, WindyCOYS WindyCOYS would be able to shed a bit more light on it. Changed the training methods and how we look at players. This was back when Arnesen was with us.
 
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