Match officials: Bent, incompetent or just trying to do their best.

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They have mics as well. When the ref walks with the ball to Pool's keeper, he has three people in two assistant and 4th official with every chance to shout in his ear. Wait, wait are your sure? That's four people who are bent or blatantly incompetent? Shocker!

It’s as bad as their disallowed goal against us in that regard. The need to release the audio of yesterday
 
Here is another laughable stat.

Touches in Opp. Penalty Area per Penalty (according to FBRef data on touches)

SquadAtt PenPenaltiesAtt per Pen
Chelsea707888
Sheffield Utd4514112
Woolwich9758121.
Liverpool9107130
West Ham5294132
Crystal Palace5444136
Luton Town5684142
Newcastle Utd7235144
Brighton8195163
Wolves5663188
Manchester City9505190
Aston Villa7784194
Brentford6883229
Manchester Utd7113237
Fulham5502275
Burnley4721472
Nott'ham Forest5371537
Everton5731573
Bournemouth6571657
Tottenham9141914
 
Decision against forest is far worse because Liverpool had what 65 minutes left in the game to score whereas forest get the ball back and go to the corner flag and see out the game. Big big difference methinks.
 
Sarr actually jumped into the crowd!
I don't know if the rule has been 'tweaked,' but I always understood that leaving the field of play, without the referee's permission, was a bookable offence. I always took that to be anywhere beyond the hoardings.

It's as dopey to get done for that as it is for taking your shirt off.
 
I don't know if the rule has been 'tweaked,' but I always understood that leaving the field of play, without the referee's permission, was a bookable offence. I always took that to be anywhere beyond the hoardings.

It's as dopey to get done for that as it is for taking your shirt off.
Definitely and could have been costly? Another booking for a mistimed tackle and we would have been fucked!

In fact getting booked for frivolous reasons should incur a club fine and a Ange bollocking!
 
VAR was supposed to clean up football and get rid of bent refs.
All it has done IMO, is prove they're bent and that nobody will do anything about it.


There must be a body/organization to regulate referees. And it needs to be completely independent from them and from all of the football leagues. There needs to be a cross section of "fans" in that organization to make sure no bias is occurring.

This body should not only be responsible for refereeing standards, but the implementation of rules.
For instance, this body should consult with fan groups (the only stakeholders in football) as to what they want to see.
IE - do you want to see 15 minutes of time added on because of time wasting, or do you want the referee to book everyone that does it immediately and not shy away from 2nd yellows either.
Do you want to see a fraction of a mm being checked for offside? And do you want that to take 5+ minutes?
Do you want to see VAR used to give or rescind red cards, but not 2nd yellows?

There's an almost endless list of things referee's say "well it's part of the rules so ner"

Well. Change the fucking rules. And change it so the people who pay everyones wages are happy with it.
 
VAR was supposed to clean up football and get rid of bent refs.
All it has done IMO, is prove they're bent and that nobody will do anything about it.


There must be a body/organization to regulate referees. And it needs to be completely independent from them and from all of the football leagues. There needs to be a cross section of "fans" in that organization to make sure no bias is occurring.

This body should not only be responsible for refereeing standards, but the implementation of rules.
For instance, this body should consult with fan groups (the only stakeholders in football) as to what they want to see.
IE - do you want to see 15 minutes of time added on because of time wasting, or do you want the referee to book everyone that does it immediately and not shy away from 2nd yellows either.
Do you want to see a fraction of a mm being checked for offside? And do you want that to take 5+ minutes?
Do you want to see VAR used to give or rescind red cards, but not 2nd yellows?

There's an almost endless list of things referee's say "well it's part of the rules so ner"

Well. Change the fucking rules. And change it so the people who pay everyones wages are happy with it.


100%

VAR has actually been good because it highlighted the issues we have with officials.

People talking about getting rid of it but then we just get the same officials but with less visibility on what they do. The technology is not the problem, the people using it are.

How can we have VAR and yet 99% of people you speak to see that Werner penalty and know it has to be a penalty? But those clowns still don’t give it.
 
100%

VAR has actually been good because it highlighted the issues we have with officials.

People talking about getting rid of it but then we just get the same officials but with less visibility on what they do. The technology is not the problem, the people using it are.

How can we have VAR and yet 99% of people you speak to see that Werner penalty and know it has to be a penalty? But those clowns still don’t give it.

Another huge problem I have with VAR is who is talking about VAR in the media.
Sky Sports, red tops, Talksport etc. They all opine on it, yet seem to completely fail to see what's going wrong with it. I can't figure out of they're being told what to say, or unanimously dumb.

Example - painfully obvious to everyone watching the game that on field refs are not giving as many big decisions, thinking VAR will pick up anything they miss.
The problem is, VAR are working under the assumption it would have to have been a monumental miss by the ref for them to even look at it. This leaves a lot of grey decisions no one is looking at. Just like the Werner one.

Yet all the media outlets can't seem to bring themselves to accuse that ref of not having the balls to make the decision in the moment. But it is 100% what is happening.
 
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