I very much doubt we'll go as far as being 100% computer driven....... The idea that they don't also have to pass an eye test or that the gaffa doesn't influence things in any way is very disconcerting.
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I very much doubt we'll go as far as being 100% computer driven....... The idea that they don't also have to pass an eye test or that the gaffa doesn't influence things in any way is very disconcerting.
What the fuck are you on about now??....we've had 2 sent off against us in one match, Liverpool ffs....give it a rest it's boring.....we're where we are because of our own incompetence, injuries and suspensions, that's it.
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Trotting that one out again? You have to pay a little extra to get the best players, not just give into the whims of the manager. How about not conflating me others who say different things?
It's not hindsight from me is it? I said at the time we were negotiating for him that he didn't stand out statistically or with the "eye test". The principle I'm criticising is the seeming surrender to the manager's ill-informed whim.
As I said in an earlier post, his good work in the PL was in a fundamentally different system such that there was no way to know if he would have the skills that are relevant to our current system.
Ange is not a scout, he has very little time to analyse players after all the time spent coaching and doing press. It's not like Celtic where brought a bunch of players from the J-league where he got to see them regularly.
Paratici on the other hand primarily deals in spotting talent and getting the deal done. Which is where our recent transfer successes come from.
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Again, never said 100% data-driven. I've expressed my distrust of data in football plenty of times in the past. Also never said the manager should have no say.
What do you mean "again"?
If you read a bit closer I didn't attribute any of that directly to you...... It stands to reason that no-one said ALL of those things.
Perhaps chill out, yeh.
And again..... I'm voicing thoughts inspired by what you said; not pinning opinions onto you.
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Probably should post it without quoting me then. Quote implies a response unless stated otherwise.
It is a response..... The response doesn't pin the "100%" thing on you though.
Besides my other post DIDN'T quote you and you still dove in complaining I was mis-representing your comments.
Seriously; chill out fella..... I thought we were just 'chatting'.... I've not been at all confrontational here.
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If that Bald Bastard Cunt discovers some self-respect (long shot) and gives Ange what he NEEDS, then we can expect far more than a mixed bag of wins/losses and pretty footy.
We need QUALITY in DEPTH.
We would have still been flying if we had good cover for injuries/suspensions.
We'd be right up there.
The buzz and momentum just got cut, just like that.
Like someone taking the needle off of a record.
And we didn't have the players, to put it back on again.
I said from the start - DO NOT blame Ange when things go wobbly, because he has come into a failed SQUAD situation.
And it still needs to be sorted properly.
I will see that Bald Bastard go before Ange.
Had enough of that scumbag getting away with this.
"We've got our spurs back"
STFU, you conman cunt and do your fucking JOB - sincerely.
And people need to stop pretending they don't know what the core problem is, here.
We can have whatever manager we want, but the real PROBLEM - THE TRUE ROT - would remain:
#BaldCunt
So don't back the manager then and go against his blessings, oh okay cool.
Might want to tell the folk who insist on we have to back the manager at every opportunity otherwise we've failed him.
Interesting stance...
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Like I said, you're dishonest, no point in us having a discussion.
What do people think about the Zouma penalty shout in injury time at the end?
Couldn't have been too bad cos I don't even remember it.
Thought the one midway through the 2nd half was soft tho.
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While I don't have the vitriol of many others here for our esteemed overlord (no not Case), I have come to the conclusion that he is out of excuses or reasons to not compete in the transfer market.
There are no excuses to not get the squad that the manager desires. I get that it might take a couple of windows still, but we have January coming up and then the summer. £100m from the sale of Harry, TV money, gate receipts, venue hire etc. etc. etc. for me mean that the time has come to put up or shut up.
The only time I've ever almost been ENIC out is when we ditched Poch and employed Mourinho. A terrible era in our history. However, I really think he's got until the end of the summer transfer window to show that he is interested in the achievements of the football club on the pitch rather than increasing the value of the balance sheet.
Until then I'll still give him the leaway I think he has earned.
That is essentially the crux of what you're saying though isn't it?
All I've done for you is removed all the bullshit you surrounded it with in your message
If you're going against the manager then you're not backing him which is interesting because if the club don't back the manager the manager gets pissed off and ends up downing tools and getting sacked, wasn't that the case for the previous ones?
Unless you think you're the expert here and everyone should listen to you, I'm not sure if I can trust your word over the manager, no offence...
BTW I just read your last post, Johnson was a data let transfer - it's the same reason why Brentford (who also use the same method) were in for him but they pulled out - The transfer wasn't solely on Ange if that's what you're getting at then you're kinda wrong.
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Handball one?
I watched the game last night but have re-watched for ratings purposes but only the first half so far. Johnson was wasteful and Son did very little. We had 18 failed attempts around the box to either score or deliver a killer pass. Porro and Romero for me were our best players first half although Porro was slightly wasteful. Hojbjerg was not as bad as some have suggested. I rated him a 6 for the first half.
Conspiracy theories abound....
Yep, the chicken wing handball
Plus we did get away with an obvious and clear handball yesterday...