Steven Bergwijn

[Alli-Luya]

Stevie probably already regretting his move to England.

So would you if you had Carragher spitting all over you. "How did it worcchhhh?"

 

[ArtyB]

Toby digging a couple of guys out here...

 

[Airfixx]

Good job our lad's wearing a waterproof jacket.....

 

[MVP]

Agree, it was more the subtleties to the methodology, just too dogmatic. Those examples are both points that highlight the situation though, IMO both suffered as they needed to recover and get fitter, but IMO it should be scaled up not thrown into (then second pre-season a full on high level may be attained).

Though after 3 years the players should either be cycled on or not pushed to their limits as much.

That is speculation tbf, we don't know how those players were treated in training. What we know is they were introduced slowly and I think there was justification for doing so.

Yesterday you pointed to SB having too much sugar, so would you have played him yesterday if you were in charge.

 

[SchmoodSpur]

Seems to have a similarly cheerful demeanour to KWP.

 

[cretinousgoat]

Stevie B is not my lover
He's just a man who claims that spurs are the one
But Woolwich are fucking scum
He says spurs are the one, but Woolwich are fucking scum...

 

[ArtyB]

 

[Nutter-Naylor]

Note, I can't.

 

[sudoku]

Toby digging a couple of guys out here...

Tweet unavailable. What did Toby say?

 

[Airfixx]

Ooooof! ...Don't like the sound of being loged!

 

[Nutter-Naylor]

Here they are.

Premier League
05.12.92 Sol Campbell
05.02.94 Ronny Rosenthal
20.08.94 Jurgen Klinsmann
29.09.01 Dean Richards
23.08.03 Frederic Kanoute
19.10.03 Mbulelo Mabizela
07.02.04 Jermain Defoe
05.02.05 Mido (2)
09.03.08 Gilberto
16.08.09 Sebastien Bassong
14.04.10 Danny Rose
10.09.11 Emmanuel Adebayor
01.09.12 Mousa Dembele
18.08.13 Roberto Soldado
16.08.14 Eric Dier
10.08.19 Tanguy Ndombele
02.02.20 Steven Bergwijn

 

[cretinousgoat]

Note, I can't.

Sol Campbell
Ronny Rosenthal
Jurgen Klinsmann
Dean Richards
Frederic Kanoute
Mbulelo Mabizela
Jermain Defoe
Mido (2)
Gilberto
Sebastien Bassong
Danny Rose
Emmanuel Adebayor
Mousa Dembele
Roberto Soldado
Eric Dier
Tanguy Ndombele
Steven Bergwijn

 

[Nutter-Naylor]

Sol Campbell
Ronny Rosenthal
Jurgen Klinsmann
Dean Richards
Frederic Kanoute
Mbulelo Mabizela
Jermain Defoe
Mido (2)
Gilberto
Sebastien Bassong
Danny Rose
Emmanuel Adebayor
Mousa Dembele
Roberto Soldado
Eric Dier
Tanguy Ndombele
Steven Bergwijn

:vertna:ochsulk:

 

[Airfixx]

Here they are.

Premier League
05.12.92 Sol Campbell
05.02.94 Ronny Rosenthal
20.08.94 Jurgen Klinsmann
29.09.01 Dean Richards
23.08.03 Frederic Kanoute
19.10.03 Mbulelo Mabizela
07.02.04 Jermain Defoe
05.02.05 Mido (2)
09.03.08 Gilberto
16.08.09 Sebastien Bassong
14.04.10 Danny Rose
10.09.11 Emmanuel Adebayor
01.09.12 Mousa Dembele
18.08.13 Roberto Soldado
16.08.14 Eric Dier
10.08.19 Tanguy Ndombele
02.02.20 Steven Bergwijn

Soldado.... How ironic!

 

[Zest]

That is speculation tbf, we don't know how those players were treated in training. What we know is they were introduced slowly and I think there was justification for doing so.

Yesterday you pointed to SB having too much sugar, so would you have played him yesterday if you were in charge.

Berjwign's eyes are indicative of a sugar inbalance, to my eyes. Sugar and oxygen share the same space in blood, so if you run too high you have strong glucose delivery in terms of calorific energy, but low oxygen carrying space, these are the two sides to acid/alkaline balancing.

Metabolic is sugars, loosely, vitamins that are called water soluble rely on sucrose chains to carry the minerals and vitamins, fats are aligned to the respiratory side of this balance.

It gets way too deep for here, and everyone will get bored and tetchy.

Not sure if I'd have started him.

We know that multiple players have not flourished under Poch, Dembele chiefly saying his body could not cope with the intensity of training. That scaling training to individuals needs could have produced better longevity and/or hit rate on signings etc.

Multiple players getting muscle injuries this season, showed to me clearly that they had been pushed too far, the collapse post Burnley last February showed they had been pushed too far IMO.

Mr Brownstone - I used to do a little, but a little wouldnt do it, so a little got more and more, I just keep trying to get a little better said a little better than before... same with physical training, once you start backing up metabolic residues, you have less space to be pushed. So 18months to fully open up the airways, train the liver, heart, lungs, kidneys to function at their highest possible level, then if you maintain that you need absolute world class nutrition and recover to cycle those out on rest periods and through the night.

Complete speculation, but my eyes say he was world class at intensity training, but his team were utterly mediocre at balancing that with elite rest, recovery and nutrition. Hence we never saw or heard glimpses of cutting edge methodologies being deployed (Kane had far infrared and his own nutritionist, why wasn't that club deployed...).

Can't be bothered to map it all out at the moment, but there is a reasonably simplistic way to do things: Alkaline forming eating and mineral supplementation; to support Metabolic pH balance, Oxygen enhancing fats to support respiratory pH balance, plus a host of supporting techniques which every club uses like massages (but if training is gruelling and intense, then this needs taking to extreme as well). Then, techniques like lowering protein 4-6hours before bed to ensure your autonomic nervous system is free to run it's repair sequences as the circadian rhythm needs (so your adrenals get their repair time 11pm-1am for example).

Shit like that.

 

[Nutter-Naylor]

Berjwign's eyes are indicative of a sugar inbalance, to my eyes. Sugar and oxygen share the same space in blood, so if you run too high you have strong glucose delivery in terms of calorific energy, but low oxygen carrying space, these are the two sides to acid/alkaline balancing.

Metabolic is sugars, loosely, vitamins that are called water soluble rely on sucrose chains to carry the minerals and vitamins, fats are aligned to the respiratory side of this balance.

It gets way too deep for here, and everyone will get bored and tetchy.

Not sure if I'd have started him.

We know that multiple players have not flourished under Poch, Dembele chiefly saying his body could not cope with the intensity of training. That scaling training to individuals needs could have produced better longevity and/or hit rate on signings etc.

Multiple players getting muscle injuries this season, showed to me clearly that they had been pushed too far, the collapse post Burnley last February showed they had been pushed too far IMO.

Mr Brownstone - I used to do a little, but a little wouldnt do it, so a little got more and more, I just keep trying to get a little better said a little better than before... same with physical training, once you start backing up metabolic residues, you have less space to be pushed. So 18months to fully open up the airways, train the liver, heart, lungs, kidneys to function at their highest possible level, then if you maintain that you need absolute world class nutrition and recover to cycle those out on rest periods and through the night.

Complete speculation, but my eyes say he was world class at intensity training, but his team were utterly mediocre at balancing that with elite rest, recovery and nutrition. Hence we never saw or heard glimpses of cutting edge methodologies being deployed (Kane had far infrared and his own nutritionist, why wasn't that club deployed...).

Can't be bothered to map it all out at the moment, but there is a reasonably simplistic way to do things: Alkaline forming eating and mineral supplementation; to support Metabolic pH balance, Oxygen enhancing fats to support respiratory pH balance, plus a host of supporting techniques which every club uses like massages (but if training is gruelling and intense, then this needs taking to extreme as well). Then, techniques like lowering protein 4-6hours before bed to ensure your autonomic nervous system is free to run it's repair sequences as the circadian rhythm needs (so your adrenals get their repair time 11pm-1am for example).

Shit like that.

Have i just woken up in a parrallel universe or something?

 

[Airfixx]

Berjwign's eyes are indicative of a sugar inbalance, to my eyes. Sugar and oxygen share the same space in blood, so if you run too high you have strong glucose delivery in terms of calorific energy, but low oxygen carrying space, these are the two sides to acid/alkaline balancing.

Metabolic is sugars, loosely, vitamins that are called water soluble rely on sucrose chains to carry the minerals and vitamins, fats are aligned to the respiratory side of this balance.

It gets way too deep for here, and everyone will get bored and tetchy.

Not sure if I'd have started him.

We know that multiple players have not flourished under Poch, Dembele chiefly saying his body could not cope with the intensity of training. That scaling training to individuals needs could have produced better longevity and/or hit rate on signings etc.

Multiple players getting muscle injuries this season, showed to me clearly that they had been pushed too far, the collapse post Burnley last February showed they had been pushed too far IMO.

Mr Brownstone - I used to do a little, but a little wouldnt do it, so a little got more and more, I just keep trying to get a little better said a little better than before... same with physical training, once you start backing up metabolic residues, you have less space to be pushed. So 18months to fully open up the airways, train the liver, heart, lungs, kidneys to function at their highest possible level, then if you maintain that you need absolute world class nutrition and recover to cycle those out on rest periods and through the night.

Complete speculation, but my eyes say he was world class at intensity training, but his team were utterly mediocre at balancing that with elite rest, recovery and nutrition. Hence we never saw or heard glimpses of cutting edge methodologies being deployed (Kane had far infrared and his own nutritionist, why wasn't that club deployed...).

Can't be bothered to map it all out at the moment, but there is a reasonably simplistic way to do things: Alkaline forming eating and mineral supplementation; to support Metabolic pH balance, Oxygen enhancing fats to support respiratory pH balance, plus a host of supporting techniques which every club uses like massages (but if training is gruelling and intense, then this needs taking to extreme as well). Then, techniques like lowering protein 4-6hours before bed to ensure your autonomic nervous system is free to run it's repair sequences as the circadian rhythm needs (so your adrenals get their repair time 11pm-1am for example).

Shit like that.

Beat me to it. :carrollwtf:

 

[Alli-Luya]

Ooooof! ...Don't like the sound of being loged!

or luged.

 

[MVP]

Berjwign's eyes are indicative of a sugar inbalance, to my eyes. Sugar and oxygen share the same space in blood, so if you run too high you have strong glucose delivery in terms of calorific energy, but low oxygen carrying space, these are the two sides to acid/alkaline balancing.

Metabolic is sugars, loosely, vitamins that are called water soluble rely on sucrose chains to carry the minerals and vitamins, fats are aligned to the respiratory side of this balance.

It gets way too deep for here, and everyone will get bored and tetchy.

Not sure if I'd have started him.

Ok but he started yesterday and scored. If Poch had seen what you had seen and not started him he would've got pelters, even if he explained the reasons post match.

We know that multiple players have not flourished under Poch, Dembele chiefly saying his body could not cope with the intensity of training. That scaling training to individuals needs could have produced better longevity and/or hit rate on signings etc.

Multiple players getting muscle injuries this season, showed to me clearly that they had been pushed too far, the collapse post Burnley last February showed they had been pushed too far IMO.

Mr Brownstone - I used to do a little, but a little wouldnt do it, so a little got more and more, I just keep trying to get a little better said a little better than before... same with physical training, once you start backing up metabolic residues, you have less space to be pushed. So 18months to fully open up the airways, train the liver, heart, lungs, kidneys to function at their highest possible level, then if you maintain that you need absolute world class nutrition and recover to cycle those out on rest periods and through the night.

Complete speculation, but my eyes say he was world class at intensity training, but his team were utterly mediocre at balancing that with elite rest, recovery and nutrition. Hence we never saw or heard glimpses of cutting edge methodologies being deployed (Kane had far infrared and his own nutritionist, why wasn't that club deployed...).

Can't be bothered to map it all out at the moment, but there is a reasonably simplistic way to do things: Alkaline forming eating and mineral supplementation; to support Metabolic pH balance, Oxygen enhancing fats to support respiratory pH balance, plus a host of supporting techniques which every club uses like massages (but if training is gruelling and intense, then this needs taking to extreme as well). Then, techniques like lowering protein 4-6hours before bed to ensure your autonomic nervous system is free to run it's repair sequences as the circadian rhythm needs (so your adrenals get their repair time 11pm-1am for example).

Shit like that.

I would say that more players have flourished under Poch than not, including Dembele himself. So who's to say that Poch's training didn't make him a better player and possibly prolong his career, considering that many thought his career might be over early due to an old hip injury

Here's an interview with the nutritionist we employed.
Spurs nutritionist on working with Poch, 'fierce' Jesus Perez & changing Kane

 

[stevee]

Berjwign's eyes are indicative of a sugar inbalance, to my eyes. Sugar and oxygen share the same space in blood, so if you run too high you have strong glucose delivery in terms of calorific energy, but low oxygen carrying space, these are the two sides to acid/alkaline balancing.

Metabolic is sugars, loosely, vitamins that are called water soluble rely on sucrose chains to carry the minerals and vitamins, fats are aligned to the respiratory side of this balance.

It gets way too deep for here, and everyone will get bored and tetchy.

Not sure if I'd have started him.

We know that multiple players have not flourished under Poch, Dembele chiefly saying his body could not cope with the intensity of training. That scaling training to individuals needs could have produced better longevity and/or hit rate on signings etc.

Multiple players getting muscle injuries this season, showed to me clearly that they had been pushed too far, the collapse post Burnley last February showed they had been pushed too far IMO.

Mr Brownstone - I used to do a little, but a little wouldnt do it, so a little got more and more, I just keep trying to get a little better said a little better than before... same with physical training, once you start backing up metabolic residues, you have less space to be pushed. So 18months to fully open up the airways, train the liver, heart, lungs, kidneys to function at their highest possible level, then if you maintain that you need absolute world class nutrition and recover to cycle those out on rest periods and through the night.

Complete speculation, but my eyes say he was world class at intensity training, but his team were utterly mediocre at balancing that with elite rest, recovery and nutrition. Hence we never saw or heard glimpses of cutting edge methodologies being deployed (Kane had far infrared and his own nutritionist, why wasn't that club deployed...).

Can't be bothered to map it all out at the moment, but there is a reasonably simplistic way to do things: Alkaline forming eating and mineral supplementation; to support Metabolic pH balance, Oxygen enhancing fats to support respiratory pH balance, plus a host of supporting techniques which every club uses like massages (but if training is gruelling and intense, then this needs taking to extreme as well). Then, techniques like lowering protein 4-6hours before bed to ensure your autonomic nervous system is free to run it's repair sequences as the circadian rhythm needs (so your adrenals get their repair time 11pm-1am for example).

Shit like that.