It could be I'm not familiar with the rules. Are you saying that if we finish 3rd and don't make it to the knock out stage, we automatically go into the Europa next season?No i'm suggesting that we could be in the Europa this season if we fail to make it out of our UCL group. So the game against Red Star is a "must win" otherwise we could end the group stage 3rd and thus be in the Europa come the new year.