No not at all we are the most hard at it we have been under Poch than anyone else!
Should have had Aurier on to crack a few heads Sat
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Should have had Aurier on to crack a few heads Sat
Maybe choose a fitting description to begin with then... Less disagreement would be the logical outcome... Haven't seen a single person suggest they were pleased with the performance.
To ignore the mitigating circumstances of any situation isnt likely to lead one to the correct conclusion.
We weren’t good but I was just saying that there were valid excuses for our performance
We didn’t turn our backs on challenges “throughout the game”!!!
I can remember just the one by Son which wasn’t good admittedly
Eriksen looked fatigued and that was a large factor on its own
Harry and Dele looked completely out of it but that doesn’t mean we’ve suddenly become ‘soft’ under Poch
Im happy to give credit where its due, and theyve deserved credit for 95% of the last two and a half seasons.
But Im not the one to pretend it doenst matter because we beat Madrid, or a capable of wining the next 8 PLs in a row.
A bad game is a bad game, and people seem to think accepting that, and moaning about means you think we are mid table. We play tomorrow and hopefully we are able to move on.
But who cares?
More people are annoyed by the term soft than they are about the performance
Some maybe.... (I'd say it's only natural for peeps to object to a negative assertion about thier club if they dissagree with it.)
Then again, some would say youre fixated with a term you yourself have already admitted is misplaced.
Regardless, I still put it to you that you (amongst others) are ignoring contributory factors to Sat's performance/defeat.
And that isnt something Ive backed from the opening post, but there are elements which hold true in certain games. Namely away to top 6 sides.
Fixated, no, but Im simply able to call a crap performance a crap performance without it having some ridiculous connotation that I think the season is a write off, and Im negative and everythings shit, which is what started this off.
"This" didn't start as you claim... Its all a byproduct of the OP and the choice of the word "soft".
I say "Fixated" cos as usual you are in every thread beating the same drum.... (At least, it feels like it.)
Again, i put it to you that if you and others weren't ignoring the mitigating circumstances of the performance then maybe it would be seen as constructive criticism; rather than pointlessly negative.... Subject to choosing a more appropriate description than "soft obv.
First I want to say, I'm getting to understand where you are coming form.....
Ive learned that often the most intolerant and narrow-minded people are the ones who congratulate themselves on their tolerance and open-mindedness. You believe its a strong trait to criticise , your wrong. Its a weakness, anyone can do it. Woolwich Fan/video shite, shows this every week when they lose.
You still look for the argument, the negative outcome-please see the bigger picture. Football is not black and white. There are so many factors that happen that determines a result. Against WHU you are wrong. Against Utd you are wrong and again against Woolwich you are wrong. WRONG!
We are not soft.
just because we lose a game it not all doom and gloom. Yes we are all miserable having lost against Woolwich or any game in fact. To be negative about the players attitude and how we underperform is totally bollocks. We all saw what happened on Saturday, we don't need to have it shoved down our throats. another day, a different result.
No we were poor and like I said other factors such as injuries fatigue and that incompetent little cunt Dean came into it
Doesn’t mean we’re soft or crap
Both Sissoko and Sanchez had good games for example
Can I ask whats the difference between poor and crap then? We let in two soft goals but we werent soft, and we werent crap we were just poor....
This hair splitting is what I dont get. Like I said, the reaction to the word soft is bigger than it is to the performance.
How about this, so everyone is clear. We have been brilliant for the most part of the last 2.5 seasons.
Against Swansea we were crap. Against Burnley we were crap. Against Palace we were crap. Still 5 points though. Still crap. Still doesnt mean we havent been briliant for the vast majority of 2.5 seasons.
See how it works?
Agaisnt The Scum, we were poor (if thats the only word we are allowed to use)
Against Real we were the best team in the world.
Is that ok with everyone?
Honestly our team is the opposite of 'soft'. We have the most physically commanding players and leader types on the pitch that we have had in years and years. We can overpower most teams physically, and we often do.
The performance against the scum was under-par and unacceptable. Doesn't mean our whole team is now something they are not.
The performance against the scum was under-par and unacceptable. Doesn't mean our whole team is now something they are not.
Yep, there is a bizarre irony that you think being crap is more positive than being soft
If you read other forums they say this about us - all 6ft+ players and giving tactical fouls whenever there is a breakaway, not sure I agree with it but it is how we are perceived.
I’m not splitting hairs
You are and surprised at you
‘Poor’ is performances by us against the Scum, Swansea and Burnley
We don’t do ‘crap’ anymore
‘Crap’ is the sort of performance by Spam against Watford and the Scum against anyone else other than us
Big difference
Our defending for the goal that cost us at Old Trafford was beyond crap, as was the second at the Emirates.
We dont do crap anymore? How so?
Maybe you missed the Chelsea winner at Wembley this season, or the Burnley eqauliser
One thing we all have in common is being pissed when we get beat-we just see it diffently.
