Yeah I don't dislike the Prem trophy, just think it's a bit....blandout of our league
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Yeah I don't dislike the Prem trophy, just think it's a bit....blandout of our league
Winning the Carling Cup is not going to help us attract top players like finishing in the Top 4 will.
99% of players don't care about where a team finishes. $$$ > top four or trophies any day
And where do you think the money comes from... Finishing in the Top 4 and playing Champions League football.
You're right. Last time we made it we spent loads....oh wait
So you're denying that the Champions League is a massive source of money for clubs like Spurs..
Whilst I understand your argument I am not so sure I agree with it's conclusion.What I'm saying is spurs are owned by ENIC...the I standing for Investment. Like all businesses the goal is to make money (profits), and the beauty of an Investment company is they don't even sell any products or anything....it's all spelled out in their name. They exist to make money!
The goal of the ENIC is to maximize revenue with the goal to either provide a steady stream of money or to sell at a much higher price then they invested (probably not that much if anything, as most likely the money spent to purchase the club was borrowed and the re-paid using revenues from the club)
I don't see an Investment company putting too much money into the club because they want a certain return every year from their investment and unlike us fans they don't care about winning anything.
As long as they can sell the fans on the hope of them winning anything (top 4 now equals a trophy...great marketing scheme they came up with there) then the fans will keep buying tickets.
Look at American sports or Woolwich/Man United for how things are done...the goal isn't winning it's selling you the hope of winning and the eventual goal is for ticket buying fans not to be needed in order to make a profit (you'll just be a bonus on any profits they already make). The English Premier League is getting a little closer to that goal every year
Whilst I understand your argument I am not so sure I agree with it's conclusion.
If you look at the 10 richest football clubs they have all spent time in and out of the champions league over the past 10-15 years and they have all, at various times, been title contenders. Being a Champions League regular and title contender also increases your exposure. That, in turn, can generate extra profit. I personally believe that ENIC very much wants to go further because I believe that there is ultimately more money to be made at the top. More money, bigger stadium, more tickets sold, more merchandise from greater TV exposure. I certainly think there is a greater some to be made by ENIC with the correct investment.
What I'm saying is spurs are owned by ENIC...the I standing for Investment. Like all businesses the goal is to make money (profits), and the beauty of an Investment company is they don't even sell any products or anything....it's all spelled out in their name. They exist to make money!
The goal of the ENIC is to maximize revenue with the goal to either provide a steady stream of money or to sell at a much higher price then they invested (probably not that much if anything, as most likely the money spent to purchase the club was borrowed and the re-paid using revenues from the club)
I don't see an Investment company putting too much money into the club because they want a certain return every year from their investment and unlike us fans they don't care about winning anything.
As long as they can sell the fans on the hope of them winning anything (top 4 now equals a trophy...great marketing scheme they came up with there) then the fans will keep buying tickets.
Look at American sports or Woolwich/Man United for how things are done...the goal isn't winning it's selling you the hope of winning and the eventual goal is for ticket buying fans not to be needed in order to make a profit (you'll just be a bonus on any profits they already make). The English Premier League is getting a little closer to that goal every year
I was lucky enough to go to Wembley in 1981, 1982 and 1991 for the FA Cup wins, 81 and 91 were pretty special because of the games, '82 were two pretty crap games but we still won. 87 was so painful and so was 82(League Cup loss against Liverpool).
I also went to both games of the 1984 UEFA Cup final against Anderlect. Now that was a final - think its the only time we've won a penalty shoot out. I also have a picture with me, Stevie & the UEFA Cup - boy, is it heavy, and round the base is a small enamel national flag of each winner, so our name is on it twice.
Yes, no doubt it is glorious to win a trophy and no-one can ever take it away from you.
However, times have changed and qualification for Champions League is as important, if not more important, than winning a trophy. The year we were in it was magical, and I want more!
Is it wrong to want both????!!!!!!
It used to be us that signed the marquee players.
Lets get some cup wins and some glory back.
Our day is coming, have no fear of that. Maybe not this year or the next, but it's going to happen.
Football is cyclical and you will be proven right....eventually.
This is a big close season for us and many others. As its a wc year quality, driven players will want to play regularly. We should be able to capitilise on this but history doesn't feel with hope.
Bale does though. As do Lloris, Verts, Sandro, Daws, Kaboul and Walker.
That is as good a spine as most in the pl.
We just need the investment in a decent lb some top quality strikers and a maestro in the mf.
Probably about 50m outlay with 40m in wages. Can you see Joe sanctioning that?
I cant. So we will continue to hover around 5th and the fans will still hope and pay, pay, pay.
Go for the cups. Get some glory.
Unfortunately I think you'll find the new stadium will have an atmosphere that ends up being worse than the current one...my opinion.